Hi doug
it's requesting the --sim  option

 mri_glmfit-sim  --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ  --cwp  .99
ERROR: must spec --sim



 mri_glmfit-sim  --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ  --cwp  .99  --sim
ERROR: flag --sim requires four arguments


what args do I give the --sim!

Jon



----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>
Cc: "freesurfer" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 11:18:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates

sorry, it is --cwp

On 12/13/2013 12:12 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
> HI Doug
> MRI_glmfit-sim didn't recognize the --cwd option
>
>
>   mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ  --cwd .99
> ERROR: Flag --cwd unrecognized.
> --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ --cwd .99
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
> To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>
> Cc: "freesurfer" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 10:54:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>
>
> I'm sure that those clusters are not very significant. Try running
> mri_glmfit-sim with --cwd .99 to capture all clusters
> doug
>
>
> On 12/12/2013 03:27 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>> HI Doug,
>> here's a screen shot, showing the clusters and a scatter plot for one of the 
>> 45 clusters.
>> for this dataset, ussualy there is 0 or 1 clusters after monte carlo 
>> simulation.  i'm not sure if they match one of the 45 clusters in qdec. i'l 
>> have to  look into that.
>>
>> I would  like to have a file  which contains the data represented in the 
>> scatter plot, for all of the 45 clusters, vlaues of thickness for each 
>> subject.  is that possible?
>> I tried runnin mri_surfcluster, but it only gave me the average data for 
>> that clusters, not the individual data.
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>> To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>
>> Cc: "freesurfer" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:15:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure what is going on. Can you send a screen shot of the qdec
>> window when you see 40 clusters? It might be that it is showing clusters
>> regardless of the cluster significance. Do the 3 or 4 clusters created
>> when you run mri_glmfit-sim match clusters in qdec?
>>
>> On 12/10/2013 05:32 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>> Hi Doug
>>> I'm looking at the effect of MJ usage,   the effect of whetherthe subject 
>>> has AHDH, and  the interaction between MJ usage and ADHD
>>>     our threshold is 1.3
>>>
>>> i have attahced our qdec.table.dat  file
>>> we are also looking at age and gender as covariates
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> Jon
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>> To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>, Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:20:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>
>>>
>>> which contrast are you looking at in QDEC? Also, what is the voxel-wise
>>> threshold in QDEC? The value I gave in the command below is 1.3 but I
>>> got that from one of your CSD files.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/10/2013 05:10 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>> HI doug,
>>>>      no, the  summary files in the contrasts  have the same # of cluster 
>>>> as the columns in their OCN.dat \
>>>> the 40 cluster are seen in qdec when I run the  "find cluster" and Goto 
>>>> max" button.   most of these clusters go away in qdec when I run the 
>>>> montecarlo  simulation
>>>>      
>>>> Jon
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>
>>>> Cc: "freesurfer" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:03:06 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So one of the contrasts has 40 clusters in the summary file but the
>>>> y.ocn.dat file only has a few columns?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/10/2013 04:54 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>>> yes, that is what we want,  but the files contain only 1-3 columns
>>>>>
>>>>> Jon
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>> To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>
>>>>> Cc: "freesurfer" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:44:50 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There should be a column for each cluster in contrast. Is that what you
>>>>> want?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/10/2013 04:37 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>> I ran
>>>>>>        mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ --cache 1.3 abs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MTA_ADHD_MJ  is my project file and has the results from qdec in it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it has produced:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lh-Avg-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> lh-Avg-thickness-Age-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> lh-Avg-thickness-Gender-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> lh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> lh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> lh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> rh-Avg-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> rh-Avg-thickness-Age-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> rh-Avg-thickness-Gender-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> rh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> rh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> rh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> rh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> rh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> rh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> rh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> rh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>> rh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> these files have 120 rows.  each row has a thickness value s
>>>>>> example
>>>>>>           2.71869
>>>>>>           2.52448
>>>>>>           2.50450
>>>>>>           2.53677
>>>>>>           2.58363
>>>>>>           2.50404
>>>>>>           2.42116
>>>>>>           2.61757
>>>>>>           2.51820
>>>>>>           2.59009
>>>>>>           2.42524
>>>>>>           2.72043
>>>>>>           2.59479
>>>>>>           2.38014
>>>>>>           2.41052
>>>>>>           2.58483
>>>>>>           2.49214
>>>>>>           2.45870
>>>>>>           2.51685
>>>>>>           2.62981
>>>>>>           2.59232
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it appears that there is the thickness for each subject in the files
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to have the thickness value, for each cluster, for every 
>>>>>> subject
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we have 120 subjects, with  about 40 clusters
>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>> To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>
>>>>>> Cc: "freesurfer" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 2:30:31 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, sorry, I thought qdec was running a script called mri_glmfit-sim but
>>>>>> it appears to be running the correction internally. That means that you
>>>>>> will have to run mri_glmfit-sim yourself, something like
>>>>>>
>>>>>> mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir glmdir --cache 1.3 abs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/10/2013 02:53 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>>>>> i have a mri_glmfit.log,(attached)   but no cache.mri_glmfit-sim.log  
>>>>>>> in the qdec output directory
>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>> To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>, Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:42:37 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there a cache.mri_glmfit-sim.log in the output folder? Can you send
>>>>>>> it to me? Also, please remember to post to the list. thanks!
>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/10/2013 02:30 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>>>>>> FS version 5.3
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>> To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>, Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:05:26 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hmmm, it should be there. What version of FS are you using?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/10/2013 12:57 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>>>>>>> i was getting the values for the command terminal, when I press the 
>>>>>>>>> "find clusters and GOTo Max" button on the qdec GUI.
>>>>>>>>> there is no file named cache.th20.abs.y.dat or something similar.  i 
>>>>>>>>> did a "find" command to list all the  *abs*.dat files in the directory
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> qdec/MTA_ADHD_MJ/lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>>>>>>>>> qdec/MTA_ADHD_MJ/lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th20.pdf.dat
>>>>>>>>> qdec/Untitled/lh-Avg-thickness-Age-Cor/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>>>>>>>>> qdec/Untitled/lh-Avg-thickness-Gender-Cor/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>>>>>>>>> qdec/Untitled/lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>>>>>>>>> qdec/Untitled/lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>>>>>>>>> qdec/Untitled/lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> these files  contain:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> # CSD PDF/CDF
>>>>>>>>> # simtype null-z
>>>>>>>>> # anattype surface  fsaverage lh
>>>>>>>>> # FixGroupSubjectArea 1
>>>>>>>>> # merged      0
>>>>>>>>> # contrast    NA
>>>>>>>>> # seed        1271277527
>>>>>>>>> # thresh      1.300000
>>>>>>>>> # threshsign  0.000000
>>>>>>>>> # searchspace 74612.965197
>>>>>>>>> # nullfwhm    15.000000
>>>>>>>>> # varfwhm     -1.000000
>>>>>>>>> # nrepetitions 10000
>>>>>>>>> # NOTE: nreps and nrepetitions are both valid for volume data.
>>>>>>>>> # NOTE: nreps is invalid (-1) for surface data to assure.
>>>>>>>>> # NOTE:   backwards INcompatibility.
>>>>>>>>> # $Id: volcluster.c,v 1.50.2.1 2011/03/28 15:32:36 greve Exp $
>>>>>>>>> # nreps       -1
>>>>>>>>> # FixSurfClusterArea 1
>>>>>>>>> # $Id: surfcluster.c,v 1.26.2.2 2011/11/10 16:01:11 greve Exp $
>>>>>>>>> # nbins 100
>>>>>>>>> # BinNo  MaxClustBin MaxClustPDF MaxClustCDF GRFCDF    MaxSigBin 
>>>>>>>>> MaxSigPDF MaxSigCDF
>>>>>>>>>             0      204.826004   0.000500     0.999500  0.998289     
>>>>>>>>> 2.456050  0.000500  0.999500
>>>>>>>>>             1      220.348267   0.001800     0.997700  0.996805     
>>>>>>>>> 2.811329  0.008100  0.991400
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>>>>>>>>> 3.166609  0.022200  0.969200
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>>>>>>>>> 3.521888  0.030300  0.938900
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>>>>>>>>> 3.877167  0.028900  0.910000
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>>>>>>>>> 4.232447  0.022600  0.887400
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>>>>>>>>> 4.587726  0.015200  0.872200
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>>>>>>>>> 4.943005  0.012300  0.859900
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>>>>>>>>> 5.298285  0.009800  0.850100
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: "freesurfer" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 5:02:41 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> which file did you look in? It should have a name like
>>>>>>>>> cache.th20.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/09/2013 05:09 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I found data for the average thickness all subjects for each 
>>>>>>>>>> cluster, but I haven't found the individual subject's thickness for 
>>>>>>>>>> each cluster.  can you direct me to that data?
>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>
>>>>>>>>>> Cc: "freesurfer" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 2:15:39 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is in one of the output files. Look for the .dat file in
>>>>>>>>>> mri_glmfit-sim --help
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/09/2013 03:01 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks doug,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We've  run a 2x2 analysis for thickness in Qdec and want the get 
>>>>>>>>>>> the average thickness value for each cluster, for each subject.
>>>>>>>>>>> How can i get a table of thickness data , for feach subject in the 
>>>>>>>>>>> analysis
>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 1:48:15 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jon, QDEC does not currently allow more than one covariates of
>>>>>>>>>>> interest. You will have to use the command-line stream (ie,
>>>>>>>>>>> mris_preproc, mri_surf2surf, mri_glmfit, mri_glmfit-sim)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/05/2013 02:57 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> HI freesurfer experts
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to do an analysis in qdec with 2 groups(ADHD, and Marijuana 
>>>>>>>>>>>> usage)  and 2 covariates(age and gender) to study the effect of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> these factors on cortical thickness. I can only select a covariate 
>>>>>>>>>>>> in the qdec gui.  is there a way to select both covariates in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> qdec GUI?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>>>>>

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