Hi Qian

if you just want to regenerate the pial, then yes, edit the brain.finalsurfs.mgz and run:

recon-all -autrecon-pial -s <subject id> -sd <subjects_dir>

note that it is NOT autorecon2-pial, but just autorecon-pial (leave out the '2')

cheeers
Bruce


On Thu, 9 Feb 2017, 冉倩 wrote:

Hi Bruce,
If I use brain.finalsurfs, then I run recon-all -autorecon2-pial -subjid
sub01 or recon-all -autorecon2-pial -autorecon3 -subjid sub01? autorecon3
still need rerunning? Thanks!
Best Regards,
Qian Ran




At 2017-02-08 12:19:35, "Bruce Fischl" <[email protected]> wrote:
brain.finalsurfs is fine if you are just rerunning the pial. Edit
brainmask if you are starting earlier so all the downstream volumes
including brain.finalsurfs will have the dura removed
Cheers
Bruce

On Feb 7, 2017, at 10:45 PM, 冉倩 <[email protected]> wrote:




      brain.finalsurfs.mgz? not brainmask.mgz? 
or brain.finalsurfs.mgz for pial surface edit and brainmask for
wm surface edit?


At 2017-02-08 11:41:40, "Douglas Greve"
<[email protected]> wrote:

      You should edit the brain.finalsurfs.mgz to remove
      the non-brain then run with -autorecon-pial


      On 2/7/17 10:37 PM, 冉倩 wrote:


      Hi Prof.Douglas Greve,

Yes, probematic surface normally existed near
supeiror dura ( aroun superior frontal lobe or
parietal lobe or central gry area). Just now I am
confused about the next steps.  If I manually erase
( whether I can modfiy control point just like
modify wm) the dura on the brainmask.mgz to correct
pial surface. Then I shoud re-run command: recon-all
-autorecon2 -autorecon-3 sub01? or just recon-all
-autorecon2-pial -autorecon3 sub01? Thanks!

Best Regards,
Qian Ran

At 2017-02-08 11:21:57, "Douglas Greve"
<[email protected]> wrote:

      I think Bruce is referring only to the
      first image. For the second image, it
      looks like most of the problematic
      surface is going through the amygdala or
      hippocampus in which case it does not
      need to be fixed.


      On 2/7/17 9:57 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
      oh yes, it's grabbing a bit of
      dura. If you have a 1mm-ish T2 or
      FLAIR you can use it to
      automatically correct this type of
      problem. Or you can erase the dura
      in those regions on the
      brainmask.mgz and recreate the
      pial surface

      cheers
      Bruce



      On Wed, 8 Feb 2017, 冉倩 wrote:

            Hi Bruce,
            Thanks for your reply.

            [IMAGE]
            For this, I think pial
            surface  (the location
            where I circle)
             already
            located outside of
            brain. 
            [IMAGE]
            For this, pail surface
            (near hippcamps I
            think) located inside
            of cortical I
            think. 

            I mean if I manually
            modify surface, how do
            it? Thanks very much!
            Best Regards,
            Qian Ran

            At 2017-02-08
            09:54:30, "Bruce
            Fischl"
            <[email protected]>
            wrote:
            >Hi Qian
            >
            >I'm not sure I
            understand what you
            think is wrong in the
            images you >included.
            The first two
            locations look quite
            accurate to me, and
            I'm not >positive but
            I think the third
            image the locations
            you circle are
            amygdala,

            >so not neocortical at
            all
            >
            >cheers
            >Bruce
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >On Wed, 8 Feb 2017,
            冉倩 wrote:
            >
            >> >> >> Dear
            Prof.Douglas Greve,
            >>  Thanks for your
            reply. I add parts of
            problem screenshot of
            white/pial
            >> surface. 
            >> >>   When I did
            freesurfer for
            structure analysis, I
            was confused by some
            st
            eps
            >> and results. The
            analysis stream was:
            >> >> 1st: check data
            orientation
            >> >> 2nd : convert
            nii.gz  to mgz
            >> >> 3rd: recon-all
            –all –subjid sub01
            >> >> After these
            steps finished , I
            checked skullstrip,
            segmentation quality.
            The
            >> problems as
            following:
            >> >> 1st: skullstrip
            result not very well,
            almost need manually
            operation.
            >> >>      After
            manually operation, I
            run:
            >> >>  recon-all
            –autorecon2
            –autorecon3 –subjid
            sub01
            >> >> 2nd: parts of
            white surface and pial
            surface not very
            exactly. I only did
            >> adding control
            points to modify white
            surface, then I run:
            >> >>        Recon-all
            –autorecon2-cp
            –autorecon3 –subjid
            sub01 brainmask.mgz
            >> >> Several parts of
            pial surface exit
            errors. I added these
            as screenshot:
            >> >> >> >> >> [IMAGE]
            >> >> [IMAGE]
            >> [IMAGE]
            >> [IMAGE]
            >> >> [IMAGE]
            >> >> So when I met
            such issues, I should
            add control points for
            pial surface  as
            >> white surface did
            (or how I correct or
            edit pial; still use
            tkmedit tool?
            ) ?
            >> Then I run: 
            >> >> recon-all
            –autorecon2-pial 
            –autorecon3 sub01 ?
            >> >> If white surface
            and pial surface all
            needed manually
            operated, whether I
            >> could do like this:
            I add control points
            (-cp), edit wm (-wm),
            correct pi
            al
            >> (-pial ) at the
            same time, then I run:
            >> >> recon-all
            –autorecon2-cp
            –autorecon2-wm
            –autorecon2-pail
            –autorecon3 sub0
            1
            >> or recon-all
            -autorecon2-cp brainmask.mgz
            -autorecon2-wm
            -autorecon2-pial
            >> -autorecon3 sub01?
            >> >> or any other
            suggestions?
            >> >> Thanks very
            much!
            >> Best Regards,
            >> Qian Ran
            >> >> At 2017-02-08
            07:18:51, "Douglas
            Greve"
            <[email protected]>
            wrote
            :
            >>
            >>       Hi Qian,
            things will be a lot
            easier if you imbed
            your comments
            >>       and images in
            the email. From the
            text, I can't tell
            what you
            >>       want exactly.
            The first question had
            to do with skull
            stripping.
            >>       It looks like
            you had to make a
            manual edit. This is
            expected
            >>       sometimes. 
            If it is more than
            that, what is the
            problem. In the
            >>       second
            question, you had some
            problem with the
            quality of the
            >>       white/pial
            surfaces, but there
            was not much detail or
            a picture.
            >> >> >>
            >>       On 2/7/17
            8:22 AM, 冉倩 wrote:
            >>       Hello
            Freesurfer Developers,
            >> I have had last
            September Freesurfer
            course. When I
            operated my
            >> data following that
            stream I met some
            problem in reon-all
            -all
            >> step. Because I
            need put some
            screenshout to
            exaplain that
            >> problems, I add
            word document in
            attachment. Thanks
            very much!
            >> Best Regards,
            >> Qian Ran
            >> >> >>  
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