There should be some bits identifying the codec, and/or whatever else 
somebody may want to change. If D-Star had that facility, we could have 
just changed the ID.

Ihe ID can be done in many ways. Some bits in each frame, some bits 
every N frame, or even a metadata frame once in a while.

Jon LA4RT

On 05/24/2012 11:14 AM, Daniel Ankers wrote:
> On 23 May 2012 22:22, Kristoff Bonne<krist...@skypro.be>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am currently working with Peter on defining the format for a VHF modem.
>
> Excellent!
> I know it's asking a lot, but would you be able to document not only
> what does go into the modem, but what you thought about and left out?
> I'd love to get an insight into the way a modem is designed, and I'm
> sure others would too.
>
>>
>> 2/
>> Modulation systems:
>>
>> Now, appart of gmsk modulation, there is also the idea of use 4FSK/C4FM.
>>
>> So, the question is simple:
>> Is there a reason to forsee C4FM/4FSK on a codec2 VHF format?
>>
>> - It can double the bitrate of the bitstream, but concidering the bitrate
>> needed by codec2, is that really needed?
>> On the other hand, there could be applications like the following:
>> ->  inter-repeater links carrier multiple streams
>> ->  pure-data streams
>>
>> - It can also half the bandwidth of the channel, as this can also be done
>> using gmsk at 2400 bps, is there a need for this?
>>
>> - Perhaps make it optional in this version of the specification? (it can
>> become mandatory in a latter stage, if needed).
>>
>> Does anybody see a reason to add C4FM in this version of the specs? (appart
>> from "I want everthing").
>>
>
> I have no special knowledge here, but I'd say put C4FM in, for two reasons:
> 1) The UK licence has the following note:
>> The bandwidths of emissions should be such as to ensure the most efficient 
>> utilisation of
>> the spectrum. In general this requires that bandwidths be kept at the lowest 
>> values which
>> technology and the nature of the service permit.
> If we can reasonably reduce the bandwidth requirements, we ought to -
> or we ought to at least consider it.
>
> 2) If it is in the specification, then I would hope that would mean
> that people implementing the specs would take account of the fact that
> they may receive C4FM signals, and if they don't support C4FM would
> ensure that their implementation failed gracefully.
>
> Regards,
> Dan MD1CLV
>
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