Hi Bruce,

On 24-10-12 17:44, Bruce wrote:

> Given what Jean-Marc wrote about the first VQ index, it probably rates
> higher than energy.
If David and/or Steve can confirm this; it makes sence to incorperate 
this in the search for a good interleaver.


>> Maybe I don't understand. Are you laboring under the misconception
>> that FEC must duplicate the data? Convolutional codes, even such old
>> things as CRC, will expand the data at less than a 1:1 ratio. I think
>> you can assume that we're using a more modern code like LDPC or turbo
>> codes.
>> Remember that we are using golay and hamming, because of the
>> availability of open source code and we are pretty sure there are no
>> patents applied here. Bill can probably elaburate better on that.
> Golay and Hamming are easy to use for a fast way to get on the air, but
> when we set a standard for other hams to use it should be based on a
> capacity-approaching code.
True, and once we get to the "DX" profiles we will probably group 1, 2, 
4, 8 or 16 frames together to increase resistance to slow fading; we can 
implement these other codecs.
So, me too, I am interested in experimenting with this; so the general 
framework you proposed does make sence.


However, one thing at the time. Let's first get our "low complexity" 
modem in the air.




> LDPC is available for us to use without
> patent issues today.
Great.

Any idea on turbocodes? Are these free of patents?




>       Thanks
>       Bruce
73
Kristoff - ON1ARF

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