Hi Jeroen,

Pls check that gut feeling abt pulse shaping very carefully - many ideal 
demods use "integrate and dump" filters - and IIRC Brady obtained some 
surprisingly good Eb/No versus BER results for the 2400B modem.

Indeed, the pulse shaping filters used on DMR/C4FM and friends seem to 
be responisble for the drop in performance compared to ideal FSK modems.

Adrian - the 2400B modem is designed to deal with the issues you 
mentioned - i.e. to run on $40 FM HTs.  Could use some more 
characterization I guess.  Re one of your questions - the use of "No" 
(spectral noise density) takes away the issue of "noise bandwidth" - one 
neat reason for using Eb/No.

Cheers,

David

On 07/07/16 07:08, Jeroen Vreeken wrote:
> Hi Adrian,
>
> On 07/06/2016 09:20 PM, Adrian Musceac wrote:
>> I have read your blog posts about the 2400B modem, but I would really
>> like to understand more, like what kind of filters do you use for
>> pulse shaping and how do they affect performance/bandwidth, how do you
>> track the carrier frequency and correct frequency and phase errors.
>> This does not seem to be explained anywhere (I know I could just look
>> at the code, but reading an explanation seems easier :) )
>>
>
> I can help you with that one (I was curious as well): The waveform is
> just a square manchester encoding. Any filtering will come from the
> transceivers.
> I have not yet tested it, but my gut feeling says some pulse shaping
> (even just a sine table) would probably improve the error rate a bit.
>
> Regards,
> Jeroen
>
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