Hi Alfred,

> In local experiments, I have heared, that the codec 700c sounds quite
> comparable with the 1600, the audio is quite "voluminous" in contrast to
> 700 and 700b. To me, this is a question only of the features of the
> codec2 but not of the modulation. Is that true?

True, with no channel impairments there are no bit errors and the codec 
performance determines the speech quality.

> On the other hand, the modulation decides, wether the codec2-data can be
> successfully decoded even in critical HF conditions. Is it true, that
> the decoding mainly depends on the demodulation capability of the
> selected modulation?

True, the modem performance is a big factor in how it handles difficult 
channels like HF.

> Is it true then, that one can concentrate on the modem technique for
> best HF results? Or is the relation between the codec2 and the modem so
> entangled, that one has to see both at the same time?

I tend to move back and forth between development of the codec and the 
modem.  For example a 700 bit/s codec gives us more energy/bit than a 
high bit rate codec, and makes techniques like diversity possible.

As we have control over both the modem and the codec, we have a better 
chance of developing an optimal system.

> The question arouse, when Helmut and I used the codec2 in 700c, but
> switched from 700c to 800xa, which in my understanding is just a
> different modem, not a different codec2.

Yes 700c and 800xa use the same codec, but different modems.  700b and 
700c use different codecs, but same modem.

What would be useful for me is a recording of the the FreeDV 700C signal 
you receive off air in wave file format.  In particular at a SNR that is 
just "breaking" the mode.  I can then replay this here.

Gerhard also send me some samples recently - thanks Gerhard.

I will also work on "instrumenting" the FreeDV 700C mode so we can 
measure performance as it runs.

Cheers,

David


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