Hi Glen,

I defer to your expertise since my area is LTE infrastructure not
radio access :)
My modems are being designed for bands from 144 MHz up to 5-10 GHz,
where spectrum is not an issue, and for linear sattelite transponders
or airborne repeaters, where multipath is even less of an issue. I'm
not a DSP expert, but I look at David's plotted BER for different
modulation types and it seems 4FSK does better than 2FSK or BPSK,
nevermind the fact that it does not require a very linear amplifier on
the end of the stick, which can get very expensive as you go up in
frequency. This is why I have some wideband modes like 4FSK 20 kbit/s.
Also, to abuse the SDR architecture in the most meaningful way, one is
almost forced to use Gnuradio, which enables very easy design of
complicated stuff like multi-carrier systems, adjacent channel
measurements, tight timing of bursts for TDMA systems, CDMA and other
goodies.

73,
Adrian YO8RZZ

On 9/14/17, glen english <g...@cortexrf.com.au> wrote:
> Hi Adrian
>
> Help me understand why the need to use 4FSK compared to say FSK OR BPSK
> ? For voice at 700bps there are few bandwidth issues for amateurs...
>
> The multi level modulation (4FSK) will be inferior to others (without an
> time delay equaliser) when the long delay multipath is severe....
>
> The long delay multipath tolerance I think should be above all other
> concerns.
>
> Or maybe I have "the wrong end of the stick "
>
> 73
>
> -glen
>
>
> On 14/09/2017 8:28 AM, Adrian Musceac wrote:
>> Hi Glen,
>>
>> We don't need to use the same chain for digital demodulation, since we
>> are not software constrained. Using Gnuradio, we can simply reuse a
>> flowgraph and connect/disconnect blocks on a click of a button to
>> switch from one mode to another. What
>
>
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