Hi Alex

so the ETSI HTx 6.2.2.4 propagation profile is specified as :

two taps, ratio 8.6dB
tap delay : 1/4 TETRA symbol (12.5uS)

In my opinion, this is completely insufficient. Any arse can pass that.

A more realistic test would be two taps 0dB, and 25uS delay. That's
reality....

Their EQx model is closer to the mark but excluded from usual testing...
it is too hard !

THE PROBLEM IS most of the digital systems like DMR and P25 are not BER
driven, especially at the terminal, they are mostly RSSI driven for
voting.....  The base can site-vote but the mobile has to do better.....

cheers


On 18/09/2017 7:00 PM, Adrian Musceac wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Helmut, for me RTL-SDR support is required. I will not be testing with
> another SDR hardware for reception as my application is meant to work
> with the USB stick (small dynamic range or not).
>
> Glen, have a look at
> http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_etr/300_399/30001/01_60/etr_30001e01p.pdf
> specifically section 6.2.2 and below. Faces exactly the same issues.
> FM is also affected by fast Rayleigh fading..
> Anyway, Doppler shift will be a bigger issue than multipath.
>
> Cheers,
> Adrian
>
>
> On 9/18/17, glen english <g...@cortexrf.com.au> wrote:
>> HI Adrian
>>
>> good stuff!
>>
>> OK, now try the analog versus the digital, with a copy of the TX signal
>> at 30uS  delay and -10dB with respect to the wanted signal.... (a common
>> multipath ) , and also 30uS delay and 0dB.
>>
>> Let me know...
>>
>>
>> On 15/09/2017 9:10 PM, Adrian Musceac wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I present a three way comparison between narrow band FM (5 kHz), QPSK
>>> Codec2 1300 (2.4 kHz) and QPSK Opus 19 kbit/s (16 kHz):
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vApRe6R1gnk
>>>
>>> The comparison is taking place in the ISM band of 433 MHz with
>>> interference present from some temperature sensors in an adjacent
>>> channel.
>>>
>>> Conditions: same antenna locations, same RX chain gain, varying
>>> transmit gain (LCD like number on the top left of the screen)
>>>
>>> Results: both digital modes cope better with interference and are more
>>> intelligible than FM. The numbers on top left of RX application are
>>> expressed in dB of amplification in the SDR transmitter chain.
>>>
>>> Hardware: for transmit one USRP B200 with 433 MHz filter installed,
>>> for RX one RTL-SDR filter with 433 filter installed.
>>> Software: QRadioLink running on top of Gnuradio (GNU/Linux):
>>> https://github.com/kantooon/qradiolink
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Adrian YO8RZZ
>>>
>>>
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