Hi David

fair enough

here is some good and reasonable recent work by one of your own.....

http://search.ror.unisa.edu.au/record/UNISA_ALMA11140739050001831/media/digital/open/9916110811201831/12140739040001831/13140739030001831/pdf

Maybe build into freeDV some sort of recording to disk and FTP upload to codec2 server....



On 7/05/2018 9:02 AM, David Rowe wrote:
The 700D waveform is designed for subset of those paths.  As part of the testing I'd like to crowd source some samples of where it works and were it doesn't.

Long term - if the average SNR is there, a waveform can be designed to pass DV over it.  Eventually.

DV over HF is a tough problem, and every development consumes 1000's of volunteer man-hours (mainly mine).  So I'm taking a tractable path through the problem.

Currently the focus is on low SNR HF channels.  I'll make incremental improvements from there, e.g. rarer HF paths, higher speech quality at higher SNRs etc.

- David

On 07/05/18 07:45, glen english wrote:
SSB sometimes wins because the brain picks up the slack. like with a 0.5 second fade.

In my opinion, for HF paths, to be broadly useful , voice DV modes need to pass an HF fading simulator, targeted at vertical incidence work, and bear in mind, that the channel profiles are quite different for Equatorial, Mid latitude and high latitude locations. And they must have minimal conversational delay, , < 0.25 seconds.

take a look at

https://www.itu.int/dms_pubrec/itu-r/rec/f/R-REC-F.1487-0-200005-I!!PDF-E.pdf

several languages :

https://www.itu.int/rec/R-REC-F.1487-0-200005-I/en



This article, is useful for its 127 excellent  references,
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11235-017-0287-2#CR38

and has some excellent channel profile references .


 From the DRM spec, Annex B Definition of channel profiles
Channel 6, path 4
delta delay : 6mS, path gain RMS = 0.0625, dopplershift : 3.6Hz, dopper spread 7.2Hz

Some paths are worse than that .. especially vertical incidence paths what have values almost triple the above numbers....


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