Thanks all for your suggestions on PAPR reduction.  Much to ponder there.

Mel and Walter - given your years of on-air DV experience, do you have
any measuerments/thoughts on average FreeDv Tx power levels?

Thanks,
David

On 17/6/20 8:38 am, Glen English wrote:
> Hi David
> 
> I've been across OFDM PAPR reduction development for many years.
> 
> Most successful simple schemes involve some sort of selective mapping or
> bit flipping.
> 
> -IE the PAPR is computed and an alternative trajectory is generated .
> 
> -These can be either tweaking the source bitstream slightly (many methods)
> 
> -and also providing overmapping of the constellation (say 64 QAM points
> might only map to 48 unique symbols, giving the system a choice of some
> other point that can convey the same data.
> 
> -and also deliberate FEC violation (modify the most encoded code and
> remove/reduce the offenders)
> 
> -and also selective bit flipping - easy and fast.
> 
> I would encourage some form of PAPR reduction for any ham OFDM development.
> 
> Without it, OFDM is often and (and ignorantly) overdriven creating
> spectrum headaches for adjacent channel users
> 
> 
> -glen
> On 17/06/2020 07:33, David Rowe wrote:
>> Hello List,
>>
>> I've been working with Peter, VK3RV on the surprisingly tricky problem
>> of measuring FreeDV Tx power.
>>
>> Over the weekend I built an inline "sampler" and tried a few averaging
>> options to measure the power of a 700D waveform on my spec-an.  I am
>> using my IC7200 with the drive adjusted so that the ALC just moves.  I
>> am sampling the power between the IC7200 and my ATU, which is connected
>> to a dipole on 40M.
> 
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