nope as I am not even looking at the mpeg4 hardware decoder. the video
chipset has mpeg 1/2 playback acceleration in the tvia_drv.o driver for
Xfree86.

this allows me to use mplayer and get the hardware acceleration out of the
graphics chipset by using the v4l extension and xvideo acceleration without
jumping through any hoops.  

so yes coupled with a pvr-250 it will work just fine. 

Anyways, a mini-itx setup woth a case that looks like a piece of video
equipment would be more in cost.  although I'm pretty sure your assessment
on not having enough power ot encode video is wrong.  I record from a ATI tv
wonder VE with mp1e on a 500mhz P-III here and get good results.. (no it's
not DVD quality at 8meg bitrate, but nither is any of the devices you can
buy in the stores.

Metallic6086N from GCT allwell, dvr-250 from ebay for about $89.00, 256 meg
of ram for $45.00 and a 120 gig drive for $98.00 , a CD burning drive is
dirt at $30.00 or a DVD rom drive for $20.00(I still don't understand
wanting to play DVD's on freevo) and a few other things for grins and I'm at
your $630.00 mark ready to go. 

If you stick with mpeg 1 or 2 files everything goes much easier. and you get
the advantages of hardware playback built in the video cards.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Shortt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 9:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] freevo STB design


Gray, Tim wrote:
> http://www.gctglobal.com/Products/Set_Top_Box/STB6086N2/stb6086n2.html
> 
> These are about $350.00 for the 800mhz version... no ram or hard drive
> installed.

I have looked into these as well.  I think they are way overpriced, all 
you get is a STB case and a mainboard with some onboard stuff including 
a graphics chipset with closed source drivers.  If you opt for the 
hardware encoding stuff and want to development with it a license will 
cost you $5k-$20k.

So, you will still have to buy a hard drive (~$100), ram (~$50), and a 
capture card.  This machine doesn't have enough power to encode video in 
real time so your best bet would be a PVR-250 which costs around $130.. 
USD.  So now your total is up to ~$630, and that is without a rom drive.

> I have one on it's way for playing with. coupled with the right hardware
and
> using mpeg1/2 files for recording to take advantage of the hardware
playback
> and they would have more than enough horsepower to act as a freevo box.

Also, are you going to have to jump through hoops to get the hardware 
decoder to work?  Is the use of the decoder automatic when using the 
framebuffer driver or Xv?  Will it even work with mplayer or xine? 
These are questions that I have, and they might be worth asking on one 
of their bulletin boards.

Here's a similar setup that I am interested in testing:

1) V8000A(no tv-out)
2) 256MB PC-133;
3) WD 80GB w/8M cache HDD;
4) VIA Sereniti 1100 case - nice small, quiet case.

Items 1-4 will cost me a total of $380 CAD.

Add a dvd rom drive, $50 CAD

Add a PVR-350, $270 CAD.  The PVR-350 would be used for hardware 
encoding for tv capture and hardware decoding for playback.  If I had 
such a setup I would be tempted to make an mpeg player in python and do 
it all natively in Freevo.  I am not sure if mplayer or xine support the 
PVR-350 decoder yet but it is only a matter of time.

So, a complete system here would cost me ~$700 CAD which is roughly $530 
USD.  Not bad eh?

-Rob




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