> Krister Lagerstrom wrote:
>> Dirk Meyer wrote:
> OK, next try: please run:
> lynx http://freevo.sf.net/install.sh -dump | bash -e
Great work Dischi!
> This should install Freevo and the runtime into /usr/local/freevo if you
> have write permissions or ~/freevo if not. Please let me know if this
> works.
It seems to work with a couple of problems:
* I don't have wget or lynx installed on my SuSE 8.0. I downloaded and
installed wget and used that instead of lynx ()
* /usr/bin/env is /bin/env on RedHat 9.0
* Running the install, seems to work but "stat" is missing:
"""
.
.
.
installing freevo to /home/klage/freevo
unpacking freevo-1.4rc4.tar.gz
../freevo: stat: command not found
"""
* Running freevo from outside the freevo folder, stat missing again:
"""
/home/klage> /home/klage/freevo/freevo setup
/home/klage/freevo/freevo: stat: command not found
/home/klage/freevo/freevo: stat: command not found
"""
Maybe the first stage of the installer can be a "tar.gz" that contains a
statically linked "curl" or similar? But wouldn't you still have problems
with http proxies etc?
> I hope this line above is simple enough. But I don't want one package
> with Freevo and the runtime to avoid big download packages.
I'm not saying that you or anyone else should work on the runtime. But
what is the problem with offering a big (~20MB) download as an option
besides RPMs, source etc? It is not hosted on our personal machines, and I
know I prefer a single download myself for Mozilla, Open Office etc. If
the user disagrees, the other methods are still available.
To me, it doesn't matter how much I need to download, it is the number of
separate steps to install an application that matters. Even at modem
speeds it is probably faster for a newbie to download 20MB (20MB/4kB/s =
5000s < 2h) in one go compared to finding and downloading a bunch of
dependencies.
It would make sense to work on allowing partial updates of the big runtime
for new Freevo versions without downloading the whole runtime if it didn't
change.
> If someone know an easy way to install mplayer, please tell me.
The legal issues have been discussed over and over again. I'd prefer to
include the binaries, but I have full respect for people not wanting to
take any legal risks just by being involved in the project. A problem with
letting the users compile MPlayer themselves is that it has a bunch of
dependencies, so I'm not sure how that would be easily automated. You'd
almost end up with a mini-Gentoo system.
Maybe there should be a completely separate "standalone freevo / freevo
linux distro" project? It would include the Freevo source and everything
else, but it would be really clear that the Freevo project does not
offer/include anything that is restricted/illegal in any country (patents,
DMCA, etc)? The runtime project could just be pointed to from the freevo
website etc, but there would not be direct download links from the freevo
website.
/ Krister
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