Hi,

first of all: a quick but not so clean way to install Freevo: download
the rc4 and the runtime tgz. Unpack free-1.4rc4, go into the directory
and call './freevo install path-to-the-runtime-tgz'

"Nate" wrote:
> You need to start with a "stock" distro of Red Hat and Mandrake and
> go from there when you send out rpm's of this.

I know. Redhat, Mandrake and SuSE are common distros. But they use
RPM, and RPM sucks. As you know, rpm tells you what's missing, Gentoo
and Debian don't tell you that, they install the missing packages and
that's it. Much simpler. That's one reason why I switched to Gentoo. 

> We run Mandrake 9.2 and thought it would go easy, your instructions
> seemed clear, but then I run into nothing but problems and lacking
> docs.
>
> I tried the RPM and the tar.gz file, no luck. I tried to install ALL
> the rpms in your download area figuring that was the problem, nothing
> but "Failed dependencies".

That's why rpm sucks :-(

Our main problem is that the packages Freevo needs are not in the
Mandrake distribution or don't even have RPMs. Some stuff may also
need different rpms for the different distros. I asked on the mailing
list to help us out here, but noone answered. I sort of gave up on
this. 

> Your docs say nothing about needing anything other than the tar.gz
> file, and most other projects just compile and run on the standard
> distributions. Yes, I have installed a lot of tar.gz type stuff with
> x windows, gtk, qt and such, and even fixed a few things to get them
> to work.

Read the INSTALL file in the freevo-1.4rc4 tgz, it should contain a
list of all needed stuff.

> I know it's fun to be a geek and do everything your way, and make
> everyone else have to struggle up to your "level" of installed RPM's,
> but this is insane.
>
> Do you want other people to use this software, or only extreme geeks?

Other people, sure. But I refuse to install Redhat, Manfrake and SuSE
only to build rpms. That's something other people should do (not you,
a geek using this distros).

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] freevo-1.4rc4]$ ./freevo
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "./src/main.py", line 69, in ?
>     from xml.utils import qp_xml
> ImportError: No module named utils
>  
> Not all requirements of Freevo are installed on your system
> Please check the INSTALL file for more informations
>
> WHAT OPTIONS???? WHAT????????????? WHERE ?????????

there is an INSTALL file in rc4.

> why did you pick some obscure programming language like python to do
> this in? Even Java would have been better (yuck)

I didn't pick it, but that's not the point. Python is a great
language, but like other projects, too, we have some
dependencies. It's not our fault that RedHat doesn't include Python
XML bindings. 


Copy to freevo-users list: if you use RedHat, Mandrake or SuSE, we
need good and working rpms and a good way to install them.



Dischi

-- 
A man with a watch knows what time it is. A man with two watches is
never sure.


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