This may be a bit off-thread but Opera browser has a "kiosk" mode that runs without 
any window decoration (and uses "spatial nagivation" i.e. shift+cursorKey movement 
jumps to the nearest hyperlink in that chosen direction). Could Opera be launched from 
freevo and do what you want ?

Opera seem quite keen on the TV/browser combination (see their iTV link) ....

Robert

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 12 January 2004 09:37
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] Firebird.py update.
> 
> 
> I am looking at using firebird too. I have worked on various 
> 'TV' based systems and the most common solution I have seen 
> to this problem is (and this is what I am attempting when I 
> have the time) is to run the browser (firebird in our case) 
> without borders or any menu bars and simply have it load up a 
> HTML interface that is TV Safe and that allows you to 
> navigate (i.e. provides a URL bar at the very least and can 
> include anything else you need or want for fast browsing).
> 
> Mark
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul Sijben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 9:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] Firebird.py update.
> 
> 
> > David,
> >
> > I am playing around with this plugin. I have fixed the 
> window size by 
> > making mozilla-firebird a script that executes the real binary with 
> > the -with and -height parameters.
> >
> > now I have just two isses that I hope you or someone else 
> on the list 
> > can help me with.
> >
> > 1) I start freevo from inittab with freevo --fs, and now I 
> can not get 
> > the keystrokes into firbird
> > 2) My screen is on overscan so the edges of the fullscreen 
> window are 
> > actually outside my TV viewing area. I am looking to center the 
> > firbird window so I can see all the edges (like the menu and scroll 
> > bars)
> >
> > do you have any ideas about how to solve these?
> >
> > hope you can help me
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > David Irvine wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I've put an update to firebird.py at 
> www.irvined.co.uk/freevo.shtml
> > >
> > > This fixes the mouse, so you can actually type into 
> firebird. It has 
> > > 2 problems still remaining:
> > >
> > > 1. When firebird exits, the display isnt updated.
> > > 2. I need to add some paramaters to start firebird at the right 
> > > size. You can do this manually with some hacking about, but its 
> > > easier to do it on the command line.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > >
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