Isn't the opera iTV browser a comercial product?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 9:56 AM
Subject: RE: [Freevo-users] Firebird.py update.


> This may be a bit off-thread but Opera browser has a "kiosk" mode that
runs without any window decoration (and uses "spatial nagivation" i.e.
shift+cursorKey movement jumps to the nearest hyperlink in that chosen
direction). Could Opera be launched from freevo and do what you want ?
>
> Opera seem quite keen on the TV/browser combination (see their iTV link)
....
>
> Robert
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 12 January 2004 09:37
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] Firebird.py update.
> >
> >
> > I am looking at using firebird too. I have worked on various
> > 'TV' based systems and the most common solution I have seen
> > to this problem is (and this is what I am attempting when I
> > have the time) is to run the browser (firebird in our case)
> > without borders or any menu bars and simply have it load up a
> > HTML interface that is TV Safe and that allows you to
> > navigate (i.e. provides a URL bar at the very least and can
> > include anything else you need or want for fast browsing).
> >
> > Mark
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Paul Sijben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 9:14 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] Firebird.py update.
> >
> >
> > > David,
> > >
> > > I am playing around with this plugin. I have fixed the
> > window size by
> > > making mozilla-firebird a script that executes the real binary with
> > > the -with and -height parameters.
> > >
> > > now I have just two isses that I hope you or someone else
> > on the list
> > > can help me with.
> > >
> > > 1) I start freevo from inittab with freevo --fs, and now I
> > can not get
> > > the keystrokes into firbird
> > > 2) My screen is on overscan so the edges of the fullscreen
> > window are
> > > actually outside my TV viewing area. I am looking to center the
> > > firbird window so I can see all the edges (like the menu and scroll
> > > bars)
> > >
> > > do you have any ideas about how to solve these?
> > >
> > > hope you can help me
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > David Irvine wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I've put an update to firebird.py at
> > www.irvined.co.uk/freevo.shtml
> > > >
> > > > This fixes the mouse, so you can actually type into
> > firebird. It has
> > > > 2 problems still remaining:
> > > >
> > > > 1. When firebird exits, the display isnt updated.
> > > > 2. I need to add some paramaters to start firebird at the right
> > > > size. You can do this manually with some hacking about, but its
> > > > easier to do it on the command line.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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