Yes it is a commercial product, I was really highlighting this as an illustration that 
Opera seem commited to adding features to the browser that make it suitable for output 
to TV/driven by remote control


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 12 January 2004 10:06
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] Firebird.py update.
> 
> 
> Isn't the opera iTV browser a comercial product?
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robert Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 9:56 AM
> Subject: RE: [Freevo-users] Firebird.py update.
> 
> 
> > This may be a bit off-thread but Opera browser has a 
> "kiosk" mode that
> runs without any window decoration (and uses "spatial nagivation" i.e.
> shift+cursorKey movement jumps to the nearest hyperlink in that chosen
> direction). Could Opera be launched from freevo and do what you want ?
> >
> > Opera seem quite keen on the TV/browser combination (see their iTV 
> > link)
> .....
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mark Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 12 January 2004 09:37
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] Firebird.py update.
> > >
> > >
> > > I am looking at using firebird too. I have worked on various 'TV' 
> > > based systems and the most common solution I have seen to this 
> > > problem is (and this is what I am attempting when I have 
> the time) 
> > > is to run the browser (firebird in our case) without 
> borders or any 
> > > menu bars and simply have it load up a HTML interface that is TV 
> > > Safe and that allows you to navigate (i.e. provides a URL 
> bar at the 
> > > very least and can include anything else you need or want 
> for fast 
> > > browsing).
> > >
> > > Mark
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Paul Sijben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 9:14 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] Firebird.py update.
> > >
> > >
> > > > David,
> > > >
> > > > I am playing around with this plugin. I have fixed the
> > > window size by
> > > > making mozilla-firebird a script that executes the real binary 
> > > > with the -with and -height parameters.
> > > >
> > > > now I have just two isses that I hope you or someone else
> > > on the list
> > > > can help me with.
> > > >
> > > > 1) I start freevo from inittab with freevo --fs, and now I
> > > can not get
> > > > the keystrokes into firbird
> > > > 2) My screen is on overscan so the edges of the fullscreen
> > > window are
> > > > actually outside my TV viewing area. I am looking to center the 
> > > > firbird window so I can see all the edges (like the menu and 
> > > > scroll
> > > > bars)
> > > >
> > > > do you have any ideas about how to solve these?
> > > >
> > > > hope you can help me
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > > David Irvine wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've put an update to firebird.py at
> > > www.irvined.co.uk/freevo.shtml
> > > > >
> > > > > This fixes the mouse, so you can actually type into
> > > firebird. It has
> > > > > 2 problems still remaining:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. When firebird exits, the display isnt updated.
> > > > > 2. I need to add some paramaters to start firebird at 
> the right 
> > > > > size. You can do this manually with some hacking 
> about, but its 
> > > > > easier to do it on the command line.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > >
> > > > > David
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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