> Although you cannot withdraw code licensed to the GPL, it is possible to
> add new code and state that it is non-GPL.  You can still distribute the
> package, but there's no requirement to distribute the non-GPL'd code.
> Effectively you are forking the project and dual licensing the software,
> which is entirely permissible.  Two examples of this are GFS and SSH
version 1.

we raised the not-so-freevsd issue on the list a while back and after much
discussion here at our office we have withdrawn our freeVSD hosting packages
from our site for the time being, due to the uncertainty raised by the part
commercialisation of the project.

Our decision to do this is very simple that a GPL project does tend to have
people (like Wim) who are ready to contribute/pick up the project/drive the
project and keep it fresh and moving forward even if something drastic
happens to the original authors. However a commercial organisation has
commercial goals and the product and its development then only becomes as
good as the commercial enterprise driving it, if the commercialisation fails
you can end up with nothing.

We feel the commercialisation of the product is not going in our direction
which I will cover later and there is no real information about the
organisation behind the commercialisation. So, making a decision to run with
a commercial FreeVSD is entirely different to running with a fullGPL one.

I feel the 'commercialisation' has gone in the wrong direction for us as a
hosting company and probably many other hosting companies like us. The
'commercialisation' seems to be targeted at those who may have a small LAN
or one server - I say this because I feel most hosting companies are remote
from there servers and a CD with auto install is pretty useless - we need
something that can go on a server with a network connection and OS already
installed - so we feel the auto-install CD is out of step with the majority
of small hosting companies and so made us ask "what does Idaya really know
about us and the market and are we really in their target market?" - this is
then compounded by the drive towards a windows GUI which again in its
present form certainly isn't aimed at the people we would be selling freeVSD
packages to. Reason is the majority need to access their VS from one, two
maybe even three different machines, home, work and laptop plus its windows
based and we have a lot of clients who have Linux on their laptops etc etc.
For us we have to play towards the lowest common denominator and that is
that if people want to work on their VS you can guarantee they have web
access, so give them something they can access over the web and they are
happy.

Finally, I would like to say that if Idaya produce/distribute/develop a
product aimed at companies like us, who have the cash to buy it, then we
would buy it, at present we don't think they have developed such a product
but that could change. But Idaya need to understand that taking this into
the commercial realm means a whole new ball game in terms of support and
product development and the present offer certainly doesn't match what we
would look for in a commercial partner. We are hosting partners with Plesk
and spend quite a few thousand dollars with them and wouldn't hesitate in
doing the same with Idaya if Idaya could match their product development and
support.

Steve




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