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OK. I hope this is the last time I have to break the threading. My upgrade is stalled; so my exim4 should work fine for now. [grin] Phil on Thu Nov 29 at 11:46:09 EST 2007 wrote: > Sure, while not discarding too much, and we should still keep the word > 'falsified'. False theories, say like those of Freud or Lamarck, the > flat earth or idealized determinism, can offer fruitful ground for > asking what made them so compelling. > > ...does this go anywhere you think? Well, going back to your original objection to my use of the word "any", I think it does go somewhere. My statement was that any actual (a.k.a. realized, "real"... whatever word you use) system can be projected onto any ordering (or any measure in general). The resulting projection may be a gross distortion of the system or a relatively accurate representation. My point was simply that multiple models are necessary. But, taking your point that even gross distortions are useful for learning, we might posit that not only are multiple models necessary, but the _distribution_ of those models must have a certain character. E.g. perhaps really "bad" models _must_ be included in order to understand the system. I'd say that "goes somewhere". - -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-219-3846, http://tempusdictum.com See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda. -- George W. Bush -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHV0cgZeB+vOTnLkoRAujNAJ9RsNyeitlPOxKtq4fYL+2CqtHL5wCfehg9 gZMEtsP8SvOR9pMFYD64774= =0UeV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
