Hola Joost:
I'm quite serious that algorithms like these might someday be used to
justify a search warrant. That is assuming that the US Bill of
Rights will someday be restored and the US courts will require the
police to secure search warrants.
-- Pat
On Mar 6, 2008, at 8:13 AM, Joost Rekveld wrote:
are you serious ?
I guess my point is these kinds of developments are threatening for
those who do not think the norm is for them. As a peace-loving
multilingual artist with several relatively obscure interests I can
totally see that what I consider to be interesting will soon be
labelled pre-crime symptoms. Who needs renaissance optics, ottoman
music, outmoded utopias ? all very suspicious !
I guess I should be watching TV like everybody else...
ciao,
Joost.
On 6 Mar, 2008, at 3:52 PM, Patrick Reilly wrote:
Sounds like a "promising" pre-crime detection system. Could be used
to justify a search warrant, but then, who needs a judge's
permission anymore?
On Mar 6, 2008, at 6:23 AM, Joost Rekveld wrote:
quote from the article:
"The algorithm, dubbed the Potential Insider Threat Detection
Algorithm, is a "promising tool" for aiding IT departments in
narrowing down the list of subjects in a breach investigation, the
researchers said. However, the experimental analysis of Enron's
email
did not correctly identify the top managers who were involved in the
company's fraud."
so the method was developed, tested, and it failed.
right.
anyway it seems that according to these people anyone with
'excentric' interests should be labeled as a threat: obscure
hobbies,
knowledge of foreign languages are all signs of a potential threat ?
great ! seems these people work in very boring companies indeed !
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"There is little use in devising a system of thought about
the nature of the trap if the only thing to do in order to
get out of the trap is to know the trap and find the exit.
Everything else is utterly useless: Singing hymns about
the suffering in the trap ... or making poems about the
freedom outside of the trap, dreamed of within the trap ...
The first thing to do is to find the exit out of the trap.
The nature of the trap has no interest whatsoever beyond
this one crucial point:
WHERE IS THE EXIT OUT OF THE TRAP?
(Wilhelm Reich)
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