Joost -- Patrick is being ironic about this, at least so my american english humor detector tells me. He isn't advocating that this ought to be done, just noting that it probably will be done.
My sixth grade daughter came home from taking a standardized science test yesterday and reported that the test asked for a definition of "outlier" and there wasn't a definition in any dictionary they had in the classroom. -- rec -- On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Patrick Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hola Joost: > I'm quite serious that algorithms like these might someday be used to > justify a search warrant. That is assuming that the US Bill of Rights will > someday be restored and the US courts will require the police to secure > search warrants. > > -- Pat > > > On Mar 6, 2008, at 8:13 AM, Joost Rekveld wrote: > > are you serious ?I guess my point is these kinds of developments are > threatening for those who do not think the norm is for them. As a > peace-loving multilingual artist with several relatively obscure interests I > can totally see that what I consider to be interesting will soon be labelled > pre-crime symptoms. Who needs renaissance optics, ottoman music, outmoded > utopias ? all very suspicious ! > I guess I should be watching TV like everybody else... > > ciao, > > Joost. > > On 6 Mar, 2008, at 3:52 PM, Patrick Reilly wrote: > > Sounds like a "promising" pre-crime detection system. Could be used > to justify a search warrant, but then, who needs a judge's > permission anymore? > > > > On Mar 6, 2008, at 6:23 AM, Joost Rekveld wrote: > > quote from the article: > > "The algorithm, dubbed the Potential Insider Threat Detection > Algorithm, is a "promising tool" for aiding IT departments in > narrowing down the list of subjects in a breach investigation, the > researchers said. However, the experimental analysis of Enron's email > did not correctly identify the top managers who were involved in the > company's fraud." > > so the method was developed, tested, and it failed. > right. > > anyway it seems that according to these people anyone with > 'excentric' interests should be labeled as a threat: obscure hobbies, > knowledge of foreign languages are all signs of a potential threat ? > great ! seems these people work in very boring companies indeed ! > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > Joost Rekveld > ----------- http://www.lumen.nu/rekveld > > ------------------------------------------- > > "There is little use in devising a system of thought about > the nature of the trap if the only thing to do in order to > get out of the trap is to know the trap and find the exit. > Everything else is utterly useless: Singing hymns about > the suffering in the trap ... or making poems about the > freedom outside of the trap, dreamed of within the trap ... > The first thing to do is to find the exit out of the trap. > The nature of the trap has no interest whatsoever beyond > this one crucial point: > WHERE IS THE EXIT OUT OF THE TRAP? > > (Wilhelm Reich) > > ------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >
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