No Comment, beyond what I've already said.

Jack
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robert Holmes 
  To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
  Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 2:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Young but distant gallaxies


  Jack - 


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  Robert


  On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Jack Leibowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    As a new correspondent in the FRIAM family, would someone please explain,
    with specifics, what particular emergent ideas are being referred to in the
    paragraph below.


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Phil Henshaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity
    Coffee Group'" <[email protected]>
    Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:17 AM
    Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Young but distant gallaxies


    >I guess that's the puzzle, since we can't use triangulation to measure
    > distance for stars we use various corollaries for age to measure distance
    > and of distance to measure age, according to the equations that have
    > seemed
    > to make sense so far.  That the equations have not been making sense in
    > several ways, like needing the invention of dark energy and dark matter to
    > bend them for other discrepancies, is what science keeps doing, adding
    > "epicycles" on old theory until some complete impasse arises... and
    > someone
    > finally has to think up something completely new.   If others don't come
    > to
    > the same impasse, like not seeing that emergence *must* be a local
    > individual developmental process and so not asking *how*, no amount of
    > good
    > solutions for the problem will be recognized.
    >
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
    >> Behalf Of Nicholas Thompson
    >> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 12:09 PM
    >> To: [email protected]
    >> Subject: [FRIAM] Young but distant gallaxies
    >>
    >> Dumb question for you cosmologists to chew over:
    >>
    >> How can they be so far away and yet so young?   Or, to put it even
    >> dumber,
    >> are there parts of the Universe that are so far away that they havent
    >> happened yet?
    >>
    >> I guess this is a question about scales of distance vis a vis scales of
    >> time.
    >>
    >> Nick
    >>
    >> Nicholas S. Thompson
    >> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology,
    >> Clark University ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
    >>
    >>
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