Hi, I'm sorry, but what is this ? Its Yoga, not as we know it Jim.
Sarbajit On 8/15/10, Rich Murray <[email protected]> wrote: > bold concepts re practical unity awareness: Fw: [tsk] What's TSK inquiry, > and what 'new core values' might TSK promote? Steve Randall: Rich Murray > 2010.08.14 > > [ re "Time, Space, and Knowledge", Tarthang Tulku, Rinpoche, 1977 ] > http://tska.info/prsnt.html > http://stevrandal.wordpress.com/about/ > http://stevrandal.wordpress.com/2009/07/24/whats-the-zone-of-peak-performance/ > ] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "stevrandal" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 4:38 PM > Subject: [tsk] What's TSK inquiry, and what 'new core values' might TSK > promote? > > In a paper titled "Human Values in a Changing World," compiled by Gaynor > Austen from handwritten notes by Maaida Palmer, late director of the Turiya > Yoga Centres in Australia, Maaida wrote: > > * Why are values so important to mankind? > * Have new values come to be recognised, or are the old values constantly > being presented? > . . . > In this changing world, has anyone discovered a new human value that he > wants to disclose? It appears that our task is rather the stocktaking of > values we already have. > . . . > The optimists say the flux in the current lifestyle is but the passing out > of old outmoded values that have not worked and the introduction of new > values yet to be born. > . . . > Is it possible to introduce a system of values based on knowledge of the > nature of the human person - one that each individual can understand to be > true and not just a system that is believed, or seems to be true? > > > To me it seems that with TSK, Tarthang Tulku promotes the previously > underrated value of the process or method of inquiry, of clear seeing, > sensing, and exploring, going into all apparently fixed, or `real', or > 'true' reference points, structures, beliefs, and assumptions, in an open, > nonskeptical, yet challenging dis-covery process that eventually, directly, > and effectively transparentizes or dissolves all structures, limitations, > and fixed dynamics. Inquiry is a valued means of discovery, or dis-covery. > Apparently 'simply' clearing the clouds is sufficient, and simultaneously > shows the sunlight. > > Within the TSK texts, paradoxical, shared, naturally inherent, core > 'values' or quality-facets are described. Those following were derived > from (yet may not faithfully represent) statements in the texts: > > 1: flow > . tension and resistance without effort by a self. > . coordination and order with complete spontaneity, and without > control by a self. > . dancing without a sense of a dancer, or doer of the dancing. > . a particular person doing something while there is complete > spontaneity, with no doer. > . attribution of causation without experiencing a causative entity > or event separate from an effect. > > 2: creativity > . Appearance and events can have identifiable causes and sources within the > world, and yet things can feel as though they come out of nowhere, with no > source or cause. > . The same objects, people, and world can be recognized repeatedly over > time, > and yet be seen as fresh, original appearances each time. > . People and things can be assigned a historical identity while felt to be > discontinuous > or to be recreated moment by moment. > > 3: accomplishment > . While we can attribute production and service to a particular individual, > that person can experience the work as an activity that flowed by itself, > with > no effort. > > 4: objective space > . Familiar things, while separate and distributed over ordinary space, are > nevertheless > unseparated and even intimately connected within and as a higher order, > dimensionless space. > . While the physical world may be a referent for any activity, no world > order > seems fixed outside and around us. > . Objects may have an inside and outside, yet they need not have any > perceived > depth. > . While there may be measurable lengths, there is no felt distance. > . Although objects have volume, they aren't experienced as extending in > space, > or exclusively occupying space. > . Geographical coordinates and points, and "here" and "there" can mark > positions; > however, there are no felt spatial divisions or extension-everything > is the same space, "here." > > 5: mental space > . I can have a mind without needing to feel that it's separate from others' > minds. > . I can have a mind without feeling that it's stable, continuously existing, > or > independent of "the outside." > . I can have a personal space or position without having to feel separate > from > anything/anyone else. > > 6: identity > . There can be people with names and histories who nevertheless have no > sense of substantiality or continuous existence. > . There can be recognizable personality without an experience of > personality-owner > and without a feeling of repeated patterns. > > 7: locus of knowing > . While an individual can know and perceive, knowing need not feel like it > belongs to a person, takes time, or radiates or occurs from a center. > . When a particular person knows an object, there may be no felt distinction > between knower and known. > . When a particular person knows a locatable object, knowing can be > experienced > as a nonlocated encompassing field. > > 8: content of knowing > . While particular objects, events, or thoughts are known, still there can > be a > sense of comprehensive, unbounded knowing. > . The perception of a particular object need not involve a sense of a > perceiver > nor any feeling of separate context for the object. > . Thoughts can express distinctions without referring to experientially > separate > objects, people, or events. > . Memories need not refer to a separate past position, and hopes, > anticipations, > and expectations need not refer to separate future positions. > . Pain, suffering, and emotion can appear without a relatively positioned > victim > or owner. > > 9: well-being > . There can be a person with a personality, reasoning, emotion, sensation, > intuition, > and different body parts without any sense of fragmentation or feeling > of separate "parts." > > 10: need and fulfillment > . A person can have desire and preference, or can pursue this or that course > of action, without any sense of need or deficiency. > . Whether a situation is labeled positive or negative, ugly or imperfect, > fulfillment > and complete appreciation are immediately available. > . Within a finite duration of clock time infinite fulfillment is available. > . Although most of the world is outside the individual, a person need not > feel > cut off from or lacking anything. > > 11: feeling of time > . There can be distinguishable past, present, and future times without any > felt > separation between the times. > . Events can "occur" without any experienced movement or transition from > one to another. > . Clock time may be finite and limited, but the experienced duration of a > period > of clock time is not at all fixed. > > 12: feeling of reality > . While objects and people exist and interact, they can seem ethereal and > insubstantial. > . When events occur, it can seem dreamlike, as though nothing at all is > really > happening. > . The clearer our perception, the less we see reality as a compounded > object. > . Although knowledge may refer to physical and mental realities, certainty > is diminished in proportion to how experientially separate entities seem. > . Experiential fragmentation of objective reality destroys certainty. > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! 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