Roger,
Can you tell me, in non technical language, why site-advisor would have a problem with such a situation. I have to confess it's just idle curiosity, so if too much work, don't bother. Nick From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roger Critchlow Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 5:28 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] dropbox? McAfee SiteAdvisor Warning This e-mail message contains potentially unsafe links to these sites: <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_ui d=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&l ocale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0> friam.org The problem with friam.org is probably that it uses a cross-site frame to load its content from redfish.com, SiteAdvisor approves of redfish.com and a handful of other hand built sites that I know. -- rec -- On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Owen Densmore <[email protected]> wrote: Great work, Roger! [email protected] is hosted at joyent.com, not hostgo. My DNS is managed by DNSMadeEasy, I use it to forward all my incoming email (MX records) to Postini for spam management which then forwards to my joyent email .. but I doubt this has anything to do with the problem. You can see the filtering in the long headers as psmtp.com entries. -- Owen On Jan 3, 2011, at 2:20 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: The IP address that the x-spam-report lists as blacklisted [209.86.89.62 listed in list.dnswl.org <http://list.dnswl.org/> ] maps to elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net <http://elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net/> which doesn't have any relationship to anything that Owen sent. Ah, but it is one of smtp servers that Nick's email client uses, it shows up in the headers as the recipient of email from NicksPC. So Nick's earthlink mail sender is/was blacklisted at dnswl.org <http://dnswl.org/> , but earthlink probably fixed that as fast as they could. I've looked at headers for several messages, I don't see the x-spam-report in any, where were they? Only in messages from Nick delivered to Owen? Owen, does hostgo.com <http://hostgo.com/> host the mailbox for backspaces.net <http://backspaces.net/> ? They might only insert the x-spam-report into mail being delivered to locally hosted mailboxes. The headers appear in most recently inserted first order, so if the x-spam-report appears close to the final delivery, it's probably only in your copies. The SiteAdvisor warning is probably unrelated to the x-spam-report that Owen is seeing. SiteAdvisor is saying that McAffee has friam.org <http://friam.org/> (or the IP address that DNS lookup returned for friam.org <http://friam.org/> ) in a list of hazardous sites, not to be confused with a list of sites that are spam generators. Seeing nothing strange at friam.org <http://friam.org/> according to my DNS lookup, I would wonder if Nick's DNS has been pwned. That is, despite the paranoia which we've instilled in Nick, he still managed to install a trojan that has hijacked the DNS services on his machine to redirect him to more bad sites. -- rec -- On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Nicholas Thompson <[email protected]> wrote: Isn't it the sort of header that would trigger such a response in mcafee? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Owen Densmore Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:56 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] dropbox? McAfee SiteAdvisor Warning This e-mail message contains potentially unsafe links to these sites: <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_ui d=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&l ocale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0> <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_ui d=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&l ocale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0> friam.org <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_ui d=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&l ocale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0> <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_ui d=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&l ocale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0> <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_ui d=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&l ocale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0> Looking at the long headers, I still see the hostgo tag warning: <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_ui d=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&l ocale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0> X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "milan.hostgo.com", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Off topic: The warning only appears only on FRIAM messages and it appears on all of them. Is there anything about FRIAM that the list-owner should be attending to? [...] Content analysis details: (-2.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.86.89.62 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] -0.3 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_ui d=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&l ocale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0> <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_ui d=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&l ocale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0> But I'm not sure that would rase the warning you see. <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_ui d=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&l ocale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0> <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_ui d=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&l ocale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0> -- Owen <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_ui d=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&l ocale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0> On Jan 2, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_ui d=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&l ocale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0> Off topic: The warning only appears only on FRIAM messages and it appears on all of them. Is there anything about FRIAM that the list-owner should be attending to? N -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Owen Densmore Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 6:54 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group; SFx Discuss Subject: Re: [FRIAM] dropbox? McAfee SiteAdvisor Warning This e-mail message contains potentially unsafe links to these sites: friam.org I've started to use dropbox and it seems a real winner! I really like the way it combines a remote disk along with local sync'ed folders. Would anyone who doesn't have a dropbox account yet be willing to sign up as a referral? https://www.dropbox.com/referrals If you want to start an account, let me refer you first, and we'll BOTH get 250MB more .. up to a limit of 8GB. Just send me an email, I'll fill the form above, and we'll both get a larger account. -- Owen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_ui d=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&l ocale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0> <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_ui d=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&l ocale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0> ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_ui d=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&l ocale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0> <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_ui d=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&l ocale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0> ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_ui d=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&l ocale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0> <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_ui d=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&l ocale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0> ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_ui d=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&l ocale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0>
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