I'm only guessing, but a website that hosts only 9 lines of html and gets
all its content by embedding a page from another website is probably a
common spam pattern.  Buy a hundred domains that misspell a high volume web
destination, pack the embedded frame with juicy ads, maybe get enough click
through to make a living.

-- rec --

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Nicholas Thompson <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Roger,
>
>
>
> Can you tell me, in non technical language, why site-advisor would have a
> problem with such a situation.
>
>
>
> I have to confess it’s just idle curiosity, so if too much work, don’t
> bother.
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
> Behalf Of *Roger Critchlow
> *Sent:* Monday, January 03, 2011 5:28 PM
>
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] dropbox?
>
>
>
>
>
> *McAfee SiteAdvisor Warning*
>
>
>
> This e-mail message contains potentially unsafe links to these sites:
>
>
> <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_uid=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&locale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0>
>
> friam.org
>
>
>
>
>
> The problem with friam.org is probably that it uses a cross-site frame to
> load its content from redfish.com, SiteAdvisor approves of redfish.com and
> a handful of other hand built sites that I know.
>
>
>
> -- rec --
>
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Owen Densmore <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Great work, Roger!
>
>
>
> [email protected] is hosted at joyent.com, not hostgo.
>
>
>
> My DNS is managed by DNSMadeEasy, I use it to forward all my incoming email
> (MX records) to Postini for spam management which then forwards to my joyent
> email .. but I doubt this has anything to do with the problem.  You can see
> the filtering in the long headers as psmtp.com entries.
>
>
>
>     -- Owen
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2011, at 2:20 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote:
>
>
>
> The IP address that the x-spam-report lists as blacklisted [209.86.89.62
> listed in list.dnswl.org] maps to elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net which
> doesn't have any relationship to anything that Owen sent.  Ah, but it is one
> of smtp servers that Nick's email client uses, it shows up in the headers as
> the recipient of email from NicksPC.  So Nick's earthlink mail sender is/was
> blacklisted at dnswl.org, but earthlink probably fixed that as fast as
> they could.
>
>
>
> I've looked at headers for several messages, I don't see the x-spam-report
> in any, where were they?  Only in messages from Nick delivered to Owen?
>  Owen, does hostgo.com host the mailbox for backspaces.net?  They might
> only insert the x-spam-report into mail being delivered to locally hosted
> mailboxes.  The headers appear in most recently inserted first order, so if
> the x-spam-report appears close to the final delivery, it's probably only in
> your copies.
>
>
>
> The SiteAdvisor warning is probably unrelated to the x-spam-report that
> Owen is seeing.  SiteAdvisor is saying that McAffee has friam.org (or the
> IP address that DNS lookup returned for friam.org) in a list of hazardous
> sites, not to be confused with a list of sites that are spam generators.
>
>
>
> Seeing nothing strange at friam.org according to my DNS lookup, I would
> wonder if Nick's DNS has been pwned.  That is, despite the paranoia which
> we've instilled in Nick, he still managed to install a trojan that has
> hijacked the DNS services on his machine to redirect him to more bad sites.
>
>
>
> -- rec --
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Nicholas Thompson <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Isn’t it the sort of header that would trigger such a response in mcafee?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
> Behalf Of *Owen Densmore
> *Sent:* Monday, January 03, 2011 10:56 AM
>
>
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] dropbox?
>
>
>
>
>
> *McAfee SiteAdvisor Warning*
>
>
>
> This e-mail message contains potentially unsafe links to these sites:
>
>
> <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_uid=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&locale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0>
>
> *friam.org*<http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_uid=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&locale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0>
>
>  
> <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_uid=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&locale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0>
>
>  
> <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_uid=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&locale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0>
>
> Looking at the long headers, I still see the hostgo tag 
> warning:<http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_uid=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&locale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0>
>
>                                                    *X-Spam-Report: *     Spam
> detection software, running on the system "*milan.hostgo.com*", has
> identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has
> been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar
> future email.  If you have any questions, see the administrator of that
> system for details. Content preview: Off topic: The warning only appears
> only on FRIAM messages and it appears on all of them. Is there anything
> about FRIAM that the list-owner should be attending to? [...]  Content
> analysis details:   (-2.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name
> description ---- ----------------------
> -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE
> RBL: Sender listed at *http://www.dnswl.org/*, low trust [209.86.89.62
> listed in *list.dnswl.org*] -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain
> matches handover relay domain -1.9 BAYES_00               BODY: Bayes spam
> probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] -0.3 AWL AWL: From: address is in the
> auto 
> white-list<http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_uid=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&locale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0>
>
>  
> <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_uid=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&locale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0>
>
> But I'm not sure that would rase the warning you 
> see.<http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_uid=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&locale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0>
>
>  
> <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_uid=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&locale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0>
>
>     -- 
> Owen<http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_uid=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&locale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0>
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
>
>
> <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_uid=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&locale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0>
>
> Off topic:
>
> The warning only appears only on FRIAM messages and it appears on all of
> them.
>
> Is there anything about FRIAM that the list-owner should be attending to?
>
> N
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: *[email protected]* [mailto:*[email protected]*] On
> Behalf
> Of Owen Densmore
> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 6:54 PM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group; SFx Discuss
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] dropbox?
>
>             McAfee SiteAdvisor Warning
>
>             This e-mail message contains potentially unsafe links to these
> sites:
>             *friam.org*
>
> I've started to use dropbox and it seems a real winner!  I really like the
> way it combines a remote disk along with local sync'ed folders.
>
> Would anyone who doesn't have a dropbox account yet be willing to sign up
> as
> a referral?
>             *https://www.dropbox.com/referrals*
>
> If you want to start an account, let me refer you first, and we'll BOTH get
> 250MB more .. up to a limit of 8GB.  Just send me an email, I'll fill the
> form above, and we'll both get a larger account.
>
>    -- Owen
>
>
>
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>
>  
> <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_uid=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&locale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0>
>
>
> ============================================================
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> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at 
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>
>  
> <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_uid=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&locale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0>
>
> ============================================================
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> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at 
> *http://www.friam.org*<http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_uid=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&locale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0>
>
>  
> <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_uid=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&locale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0>
>
>
> ============================================================
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> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at 
> *http://www.friam.org*<http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_uid=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&locale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0>
>
>  
> <http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/friam.org?pip=false&premium=true&client_uid=1064314504&client_ver=3.3.0.168&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=0&locale=en_us&os_ver=6.1.0.0>
>
> ============================================================
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> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
>
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