This BEO? http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/03/dsh-module-concepts-outlined-beo-exploration/
I think we agree: let COTS take care of the current stuff now that the shuttle is no more, and let BEO projects be NASA's goal. -- Owen On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Carl Tollander <[email protected]> wrote: > Not seeing much of a pure commercial story for BEO. COTS isn't aimed at > that. So right now BEO (fuel depot at L2, manned asteroid visits, Mars) > is Orion/SLS-centric and conjecture over beer. My feeling is that COTS > is there to guarantee that we have the industrial base to get to LEO > whenever we want to and to free up NASA to concentrate on more deep-space > (manned and unmanned) stuff. I will be happy to stand corrected. > > Carl > > > On 5/28/12 2:24 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Jochen Fromm <[email protected]> wrote: > > You have heard about planetary resources and the first commercial flight > to the ISS by the Dragon spacecraft from SpaceX. Is this a new step forward > into commercial space exploration? Or a step back into the orbit? The first > man landed on the moon already 40 years ago. I am just reading 'Carrying > the Fire' from Michael Collins, an impressive book about a tremendous > achivement in an exciting time. Although nobody has repeated this success > in the last 4 decades, space exploration of the solar system with robots > and rovers will certainly continue. Human space exploration is much more > difficult, and I am not sure if it is the right path. Space veterans like > Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins are of course supporters of manned space > flight. What do you think? There is something profoundly affecting about > these spacecrafts, spaceships and the other technical marvels from rocket > science. Do we need humans to control them? > > > I like the NASA COTS (Commercial Orbital Transportation Services) > approach > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_Orbital_Transportation_Services > > It defines phases and capabilities with both maned and un-maned > missions. The recent SpaceX mission was COTS 2 > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COTS_Demo_Flight_2 > .. just one of many COTS objectives, for example > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COTS_Demo_Flight_3 > > The COTS missions look like: > > Commercial Cargo > Development<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_Orbital_Transportation_Services#Awards> > 2006 > - *2011* Commercial Space Transportation > Capabilities<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_Space_Transportation_Capabilities> > 2007 > - 2010 Commercial Crew > Development<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_Crew_Development#CCDev_1> > (phase > 1) 2010 - *2011* Commercial Resupply > Services<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_Resupply_Services> > (cargo) *2011 - 2015* Commercial Crew > Development<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_Crew_Development#CCDev_2> > (phase > 2) *2011 - 2012* > > As wonderful as exploring the solar system and beyond has been, I like > the new "practical" approach the new commercial ventures are taking. > Mining the moon and asteroids and using them on in-orbit or L5 to start > living in and constructing in space. > > I think ultimately this will get us on Mars and on the next star soonest. > > -- Owen > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >
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