"We have met the Enemy, and he is us." - Pogo

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Leigh Fanning <[email protected]> wrote:

> This is a country producing substandard students unable to compete
> intellectually with their peers, with school budgets a perennial
> mess.  It's also a country that primarily serves compliant,
> malleable girls in the school systems.  Problem boys are fast-tracked
> to deficit drugs rather than creating educational systems that
> actually work for them.  It's unlikely that the schools could
> handle filtering for future mass murderers given that they can't
> even manage their primary mission.
>
> It seems the entire surrounding group was out of touch.  Was the father
> so removed that he spent no time with his son and simply paid
> off the mother to make a problem go away so he could continue his
> wealthy much better than yours life?  Are we really to believe that
> he had no knowledge of his son's activities?
>
> Who are we to judge these people anyway?  We should be judging
> ourselves that we have allowed such disconnected social systems
> to become commonplace, and feel that we bear no responsibility
> to each other or towards the communities we live in.
>
> Leigh
>
>
>
> On 18 Dec 2012 at 12:38 AM, Marcus G. Daniels related
> > Hi,
> >
> > When it comes to gun control and parents, does the government try to
> > cross-examine parents seeking purchase of weapons to be sure their
> > remarks about their children are sufficiently detached and analytical?
> > Do we expect parents to know the inner lives of their introverted
> > children,  and even adult children?  The hopes by and expectations of
> > parents seem counter to an honest assessment of an odd child, especially
> > in upper-middle class Connecticut.   It seems Nancy Lanza did have a
> > basic misapprehension of her son.  If she didn't  she would have known
> > it was inappropriate to have such efficient weapons in the house.
> >
> > I think the kind of cultural change that would be needed to identify
> > cases like Adam Lanza would, in general, be considered too intrusive and
> > rejected by most Americans.   It would involve, I expect, that
> > apparently introverted kids would receive psychological assessments, and
> > that those assessments, would need to be actionable without parental
> > consent.   Like most school assessments, they would discourage any
> > subtle judgement by the fraction of teachers capable of the task.
> >
> > Marcus
> >
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