Aq looks great, esp. the retention of metadata (file dates).  If only it
supported Windows.


On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Owen Densmore <[email protected]> wrote:

> A bit OT but ... Hmm.. Just got thinking about about Amazon being used by
> Dropbox and their relative pricing.
>
> Amazon charges $.095/GB/Month for its storage.  That's $9.50/Mo or
> $114.00/Year for 100GB.
>      http://aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing/
>
> 100GB is the first tier of paid Dropbox which goes for $9.99/Mo or
> $99.00/year (17% discount).
>      https://www.dropbox.com/upgrade
>
> That's surprising: the same storage is actually cheaper on Dropbox!  Why?
> - Az only charges for what you actually use, while DB charges for the
> 100GB even tho you only use a fraction of it.  My guess is that for most
> folks (say 50% utility) Az is cheaper.
> - DB probably gets a volume discount but provides additional services for
> the user.
> - Arq is "just an app" but the same could be said for DB
>      http://www.haystacksoftware.com/arq/
>
> But then Google gets into the act: Google Drive costs less, only 
> $4.99/100GB/Mo.
>  That's considerably less, but then GD is new to the game and it isn't
> clear just how easily it is used. Possibly Arq, DB and others could offer
> their services on GD for less?
>
> But boy, this shows that there is considerable competition in the storage
> world!
>
>    -- Owen
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Owen Densmore <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Arq sounds great, thanks for the pointer.  Looks like a winner.
>>
>> Kinda interesting dropbox uses amazon too.
>>
>>    -- Owen
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Barry MacKichan <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I'll put in my two cents.
>>>
>>> All the files I care about are on a Mac, so I use Arq, which backs up to
>>> Amazon's S3 and Glacier services. There are two levels of S3 service which
>>> vary in their redundancy. The higher level (S3 standard storage) claims:
>>> Designed for 99.999999999% durability and 99.99% availability of objects
>>> over a given year.
>>> Designed to sustain the concurrent loss of data in two facilities.
>>>
>>> The price is now $.095 per gigabyte per month. I have watched it go down
>>> from $.15 to $.095, but it may not be going down as fast as hard drive
>>> prices.
>>>
>>> Amazon's Glacier storage is $.01 per gigabyte per month, but it has a
>>> time delay on recovery (about 4 hours, enough time for the gerbils to mount
>>> a tape). It can get expensive to move a lot of data in and out of Glacier,
>>> but it is fine for long time storage.
>>>
>>> So now I have my home folder tree on Time Machine and Amazon S3. I have
>>> a music and old data (carried forth from PC to PC since the late 80's) on
>>> Glacier, so for most of my data (but not bought applications) I have copies
>>> 1) on my Mac, 2) on my Time Machine, and 3) on S3 and Glacier offsite.
>>>
>>> The next problem is if (when) I have to reduce the amount of data on my
>>> Mac (when going to SSD, possibly) I will need a place for the data moved
>>> off my Mac and my Tiime Machine. I probably will go with a Drobo, which has
>>> a good bit of redundancy and which would require only a Glacier backup
>>> ($10.00 per terabyte per month) .
>>>
>>> I am putting some faith in Amazon, but their record is so far quite
>>> good, and a disk in a safety deposit box, at least in my case, would be
>>> updated rarely if at all.
>>>
>>> --Barry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2013, at 9:30 AM, Owen Densmore wrote:
>>>
>>> I figured out the google drive vs g+ plan.  It turns out they are
>>> integrated, a good thing I think.  I was concerned it was yet another half
>>> baked stunt but this seems pretty well managed.
>>>
>>>    -- Owen
>>>
>>> torage plan pricing
>>>
>>> Learn about your options for purchasing more storage for Google Drive,
>>> Google+ Photos, and Gmail.
>>>
>>> Store up to 5 GB between Google Drive and Google+ Photos, then pay for
>>> additional storage as your account grows. Here's how it works:
>>>
>>>    - Tap into your free storage as soon as you start using Google Drive
>>>    and G+ Photos.
>>>    - Purchase additional storage that can be shared across Google Drive
>>>    and G+ Photos. When you purchase additional storage, your Gmail storage
>>>    limit will automatically be increased to 25 GB.
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