Steve wrote:

<< I agree, that is why I live in a swamp. I care for my tools but let the 
morass flourish.>>

Ok, let me be concrete. Consider GNU Autoconf or CMAKE.  They are just a
part the morass, even though they aim to cope with it. They wouldn't exist
but for the morass.  Huge amounts of effort go into maintaining and using
these tools, and really nothing inherently valuable comes of it.  It would
have all been unnecessary had it not been for the swamp people, like the
client Doug mentioned.  

Stand for something, or fall for nothing man.

Marcus

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