In March, I began working with two (relatively) young tech entrepreneurs in the Ukraine. Aside from their technical dominance with hard problems, they offered some amazing social consciousness examples from their own lives/culture.

In particular, about 4 years ago (they claim), the people (mostly middle/professional class) decided collectively (how did they negotiate this? Social/commercial media? ???) to put an end to the corruption of their bureaucracies. They collectively decided/agreed to quit paying bribes to get things done. They recognized that if they did not pay bribes, then those who were in their positions specifically *to* profit in that manner would go away pretty fast. According to them, it worked.

The Ukraine is a small and agile nation compared to the ageing behemoth that is the USA, so maybe this really can't work here, but I *liked* the spirit. You don't bribe people to quit accepting bribes, for example, you cut them off at the pockets.

What about a pledge to "vote for the guy/gal with the *least* financial support" or following Obama's funding demographic, "vote for the guy/gal whose *average contribution* was the smallest"?

Maybe Lessig's campaign will generate this also as an awareness... maybe that is really what it is about... if so... more power to him... I'll send him a buck. And keep on harping.

Carry on,
 - Steve
Dare I say, as expected, offered an opportunity to actual do something, many (the 91%?) keep explaining (debate back and forth) why one should do nothing.

With all the talent and expertise on this list, surely someone could help Larry Lessig succeed with his campaign? It's complicated/complex. Who's up to it? Remember, this was inspired <http://motherboard.vice.com/read/how-aaron-swartz-helped-inspire-lawrence-lessigs-mayday-pac> by Aaron Swartz.

Robert C

On 7/1/14 7:47 PM, Arlo Barnes wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 5:36 PM, glen <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    But, again, hyper-focus on how we vote is probably no better than
    hyper-focus on how campaigns are funded.  If only there were some
    way we could compose multiple mechanisms into some magic machine
    and, oh I don't know, run it forward to see how it all works out,
    then compare that machine to data taken from the world and tweak
    the machine until it seems to work, then base our predictions off
    that machine.  [sigh] Sounds like science fiction to me!

Sound like history to me. Although there are a few things about our current situation that are unique enough to make it hard to draw comparisons.

-Arlo James Barnes


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