I'll assume you meant something generic like: "*focus its play on those
wheels with the longest runs [of unusual results, whatever form that might
take]."*

With that in mind, your test better work. If it doesn't, then casinos and
players have wasted a lot of time worrying about loaded equipment.

Or, to phrase it differently, if I'm the casino manager, and you tell me we
have a problem with a loaded wheel, you'll have my attention. However, if
you also tell me that someone following the proposed plan couldn't possibly
detect the difference between the loaded wheel and a non-loaded one, then
you'll lose my attention, because apparently you don't know what the word
"loaded" means.

Now, you (Nick) might be pointing out that if we spun each wheel a million
times, then concluded which one was *the* loaded one, *and* made a fortune
betting smartly for the next million spins... it is still the case that
our conclusion may be drawn into suspicion during the third million spins.
That strikes me as a different problem... That is, the question of the best
way to make money off of a loaded wheel shouldn't be held up by generic
reference to the problem of induction.


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U.S. Marine Corps
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On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Robert J. Cordingley <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Based on https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/peirce/#dia - it looks like
> abduction (AAA-2) to me - ie developing an educated guess as to which might
> be the winning wheel. Enough funds should find it with some degree of
> certainty but that may be a different question and should use different
> statistics because the 'longest run' is a poor metric compared to say net
> winnings or average rate of winning. A long run is itself a data point and
> the premise in red (below) is false.
>
> Waiting for wisdom to kick in. R
>
> PS FWIW the article does not contain the phrase 'scientific induction' R
>
> On 12/12/16 12:31 AM, Nick Thompson wrote:
>
> Dear Wise Persons,
>
>
>
> Would the following work?
>
>
>
> *Imagine you enter a casino that has a thousand roulette tables.  The
> rumor circulates around the casino that one of the wheels is loaded.  So,
> you call up a thousand of your friends and you all work together to find
> the loaded wheel.  Why, because if you use your knowledge to play that
> wheel you will make a LOT of money.  Now the problem you all face, of
> course, is that a run of successes is not an infallible sign of a loaded
> wheel.  In fact, given randomness, it is assured that with a thousand
> players playing a thousand wheels as fast as they can, there will be random
> long runs of successes.  But the longer a run of success continues, the
> greater is the probability that the wheel that produces those successes is
> biased.  So, your team of players would be paid, on this account, for
> beginning to focus its play on those wheels with the longest runs. *
>
>
>
> FWIW, this, I think, is Peirce’s model of scientific induction.
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
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