Nick, No. "Self" has a technical meaning in psychoanalysis. The tiny baby experiences the world as self-(m)other after a certain amount of separation and individuation. I've got to stop giving lectures on this subject. I'm already in over my head.
Framk Frank Wimberly Phone (505) 670-9918 On Jan 17, 2017 3:28 PM, "Nick Thompson" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, Frank, > > > > Isn’t that an example of itself? > > > > “This book was written about me”. > > > > Nick > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > > Clark University > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > *From:* Friam [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Frank > Wimberly > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 17, 2017 3:00 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] The root of personality disorders > > > > Yes, pathological narcissism starts during the first two years of life. > Hence the infantile symptomatology. But it can be aggravated during > adolescence, say, by the kinds of things > > Jochen mentions. Heinz Kohut wrote a book on the etiology of the > pathology in a book called "Analysis of the Self". It is not about self > analysis. > > > > It is almost impossible to read by lay persons, including yours truly. It > is full of language like "the hypercathexis of the narcissistic libido". > Also, people who read it often (mistakenly) start feeling that they have > the disorder. > > > > Frank > > > > > > > > Frank Wimberly > Phone (505) 670-9918 > > > > On Jan 17, 2017 2:49 PM, "Joe Spinden" <[email protected]> wrote: > > If you want to psychoanalyze Trump, you might start before he was sent to > the NYMA. I.e., WHY did his father send him there ? > > -J > > > > On 1/17/17 2:43 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote: > > In 2011 there was a press conference where president Obama roasted Trump > and mocked about his competence. Trump was sitting in the audience and > didn't laugh. For a person with a narcissistic personality disorder this > must have been a traumatic experience. Maybe this was the moment where he > decided to take revenge no matter at what cost? It starts at 2:40 > > https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ohfN1_cjm5I > > > > I think if we really want to understand him we have to go back a little > bit more. When Trump was 13, his father sent him to the NYMA (New York > Military Academy). It is a rigid school which values discipline. He must > have been very unhappy to be the only of 5 siblings to be there, to move > from a rich house in Queens, NY, to this impersonal and strict institution. > > http://www.businessinsider.de/donald-trump-attended-new- > york-military-academy-2016-12?op=1 > > I guess his personality must have been deformed by this humiliating > experience. Was this the moment when he decided to be selfish and egoistic > because his parents didn't care about him? At the core of his personality > you can probably still meet the lonely and insecure 13 year old that wants > to be loved. > https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/decades- > later-disagreement-over-young-trumps-military-academy-post/ > 2016/01/09/907a67b2-b3e0-11e5-a842-0feb51d1d124_story.html > > > > They say narcissism can develop if a child gets too much or too little > attention. The young Donald apparently got too little love from his > parents, and he learned that he can be loved if he wins, pretends, or > pretends to win. Lies obviously have been helpful to get what he wants, and > from 13 to 18 no parents were there for him to guide him. Is this how a > personality order can develop, too little love in childhood? > > > > -J. > > > > > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > > > -- > > Joe > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >
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