Someone pointed out that Trump never laughs. Not at himself, not at others, not at his own jokes, not at anything.
-- rec -- On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Frank Wimberly <[email protected]> wrote: > Nick, > > No. "Self" has a technical meaning in psychoanalysis. The tiny baby > experiences the world as self-(m)other after a certain amount of separation > and individuation. I've got to stop giving lectures on this subject. I'm > already in over my head. > > Framk > > Frank Wimberly > Phone (505) 670-9918 > > On Jan 17, 2017 3:28 PM, "Nick Thompson" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi, Frank, >> >> >> >> Isn’t that an example of itself? >> >> >> >> “This book was written about me”. >> >> >> >> Nick >> >> >> >> Nicholas S. Thompson >> >> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology >> >> Clark University >> >> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ >> >> >> >> *From:* Friam [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Frank >> Wimberly >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 17, 2017 3:00 PM >> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >> [email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] The root of personality disorders >> >> >> >> Yes, pathological narcissism starts during the first two years of life. >> Hence the infantile symptomatology. But it can be aggravated during >> adolescence, say, by the kinds of things >> >> Jochen mentions. Heinz Kohut wrote a book on the etiology of the >> pathology in a book called "Analysis of the Self". It is not about self >> analysis. >> >> >> >> It is almost impossible to read by lay persons, including yours truly. >> It is full of language like "the hypercathexis of the narcissistic libido". >> Also, people who read it often (mistakenly) start feeling that they have >> the disorder. >> >> >> >> Frank >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Frank Wimberly >> Phone (505) 670-9918 >> >> >> >> On Jan 17, 2017 2:49 PM, "Joe Spinden" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> If you want to psychoanalyze Trump, you might start before he was sent to >> the NYMA. I.e., WHY did his father send him there ? >> >> -J >> >> >> >> On 1/17/17 2:43 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote: >> >> In 2011 there was a press conference where president Obama roasted Trump >> and mocked about his competence. Trump was sitting in the audience and >> didn't laugh. For a person with a narcissistic personality disorder this >> must have been a traumatic experience. Maybe this was the moment where he >> decided to take revenge no matter at what cost? It starts at 2:40 >> >> https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ohfN1_cjm5I >> >> >> >> I think if we really want to understand him we have to go back a little >> bit more. When Trump was 13, his father sent him to the NYMA (New York >> Military Academy). It is a rigid school which values discipline. He must >> have been very unhappy to be the only of 5 siblings to be there, to move >> from a rich house in Queens, NY, to this impersonal and strict institution. >> >> http://www.businessinsider.de/donald-trump-attended-new-york >> -military-academy-2016-12?op=1 >> >> I guess his personality must have been deformed by this humiliating >> experience. Was this the moment when he decided to be selfish and egoistic >> because his parents didn't care about him? At the core of his personality >> you can probably still meet the lonely and insecure 13 year old that wants >> to be loved. >> https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/decades-late >> r-disagreement-over-young-trumps-military-academy-post/2016/ >> 01/09/907a67b2-b3e0-11e5-a842-0feb51d1d124_story.html >> >> >> >> They say narcissism can develop if a child gets too much or too little >> attention. The young Donald apparently got too little love from his >> parents, and he learned that he can be loved if he wins, pretends, or >> pretends to win. Lies obviously have been helpful to get what he wants, and >> from 13 to 18 no parents were there for him to guide him. Is this how a >> personality order can develop, too little love in childhood? >> >> >> >> -J. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ============================================================ >> >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> >> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Joe >> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >> > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >
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