It's a false dichotomy.  An Apollonian can recognize that he or she needs food, 
just as well as they could recognize they need intellectual or spiritual 
sustenance.  And of course your brain will do the dreaming that is needed to 
keep you alive, even if you don't know about it or recognize its value.   I 
guess you are just being absurd?    

Did you ever see the movie Strange Days?    Why should I jump out of an 
airplane if I could just pump the same signals into my brain?   There's nothing 
real, after all.

Marcus    

On 1/2/19, 10:19 AM, "Friam on behalf of Nick Thompson" 
<[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:

    Yeah.  See.  That's just the point.  About 20 years ago, I decided that 
dreaming was a waste of time and I wouldn't do it anymore.  So I don't.   
    
    Dionysians and Apollonians are very different people. 
    
    Nick 
    
    Nicholas S. Thompson
    Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
    Clark University
    http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
    
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Friam [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels
    Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 10:08 AM
    To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Abduction
    
    There's also this thing one can do called `sleeping in', which tends to 
increase the probability of dream memory and/or lucid dreaming, at least for 
me.  A built-in neuroplasticity mechanism complete with psychedelic phenomena 
and a safety mechanism of motor system deactivation. (
    
    On 1/2/19, 10:03 AM, "Friam on behalf of Nick Thompson" 
<[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:
    
        For instance, I have never dreamed about what mushrooms might do for 
me.  Is that a fair statement of a difference between us?
    
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