Re: Wich Subject being a bit over thunk It was starting to look like 4Chan, Anyonymous and Anyonimity was. So me being me in a sassy just thought it'd be worth saying something mostly to rib that tendancy. But also to say uh you guys while smart look to be over thinking this one a lot. It's neet to see 4Chan as a rough template for thing though.
On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 10:44 PM Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> wrote: > < Carry on with what looks to be over thinking a simple topic though. > > > > > There are seven topics named in the subject line alone. And that’s before > unfurling even one of them. > > (As much as I hate to argue for Glen’s position.) > > > > Marcus > > > > *From: *Friam <[email protected]> on behalf of Gillian Densmore < > [email protected]> > *Reply-To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > [email protected]> > *Date: *Monday, January 28, 2019 at 10:30 PM > *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > [email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] Modeling 4chan: roles, topics, beliefs, strawman, > anonymity, etc. > > > > Sigh...their are a bunch of things about this thread...I just can'tness > 4Chan started as a buliten board a long time ago- as far as I know it's > mostly Anonymous talk for the collectives: PhpSec and Anoynouse for sure. > I think the other factions got booted off around 2012 or so for being to > extreme even by their standards. LolSec for example had threatend peoples > lifes wich while some in computer underground culture might think it'd be a > good idea to beet the asterix star collon semi collon out of people..they > were willing at one point to go their and got thrown out. > > Since then Anonymouse has (infamously ) grown from basically small > interuptions to bring attention to social problems where the powers that > be...litterally all over the world were ignoring. > > > > As of late 2017(?) or so when one of their top guys was assisnitated in > france durring the Charlie Hepo (parden me that I haven't a clue how to > spell in french) they've to sometime around 2018 taken on larger and larger > targets. I think they took on ISIS(that one) ... > > Point being 4Chan isn't all that complicated. > > > > Carry on with what looks to be over thinking a simple topic though. > > > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 5:45 PM Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I think generative learning (e.g. for deep fake videos) could capture > Hendrix or Page. Studying the deviations from the likely governing > equations could be interesting (and probably could be quantified) but it > also just could be some idiosyncratic bit of developmental history that > means nothing. With governance, I want to get some evidence of the rough > features of where they stand and how they are likely to act. I don't see > it as relevant how they interact with their friends or their children > because I am not looking for a friend or a parent. In technical > conversations, I don't see it as necessary to pre-approve or seek > pre-approval to segue from topic to topic -- to know the discussants role. > > On 1/28/19, 4:04 PM, "Friam on behalf of uǝlƃ ☣" < > [email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote: > > Hm. As shallow as I think Trump is, or as much as I think Warren is a > gaming politician, I don't think any of it is (merely) a distraction. I'm > rather fond of the concept of code switching ( > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code-switching) and it's extrapolation into > other domains (e.g. https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/). It would > be a stretch to believe in the Freudian Slip. But such things do have > meaning and can help understand deeper layerings of messages. > > This is one of the reasons I'm saddened by the category of things that > includes instant replay refereeing, hyper-realistic animated movies, deep > fake videos, technically perfect guitar playing, etc. The very reasons I > like Jimi Hendrix and Jimmy Page better than Joe Satriani (or even Stevie > Ray Vaughn) are those little *errors* where the implementation doesn't > quite match whatever "governing equations" you might infer they're trying > to implement. The kerfuffle about the Saints' loss is a symptom of our > being poised between the real and the fake. > > And to deny our political transition from newspaper/radio into TV, > where any candidate must be somewhat telegenic would miss the social > impacts of technology on politics (and every other social aspect of our > lives). > > So, these are not distractions, at all. I'd claim they are indicators > for deeper messages, waiting to be interpreted. > > On 1/28/19 1:57 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > Or they can just be a distraction, like Elizabeth Warren showing > that she drinks beer. If the actor creates a rich dictionary to bind the > symbols of the story to, then that can add value. Other actors like > Donald Trump only have the performance art, and no actual story. > > > -- > ☣ uǝlƃ > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC> > http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >
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