Ok...  

Then I think the assertion that *either* changes the brain in any
*plastic* manner is sketchy.  I believe that plastic changes occur
through changes in behaviour (i.e. habits) and/or perhaps changes in
body chemistry/biome.

I don't have any evidence or references at this time.

On 3/8/19 4:14 PM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote:
> Well, as I tried to make clear earlier, my question isn't about the changes 
> either therapy makes to the brain so much as whether or not the changes from 
> one therapy are _similar to_ the changes from the other therapy.  The 
> evidence that the two therapies change the brain in the same or similar ways 
> seems pretty sketchy to me.
>
> On 3/8/19 10:34 AM, Steven A Smith wrote:
>> I think you are asking something more sophisticated though?   If we believe 
>> that there are *some* kinds of changes to the brain (such as Dave's examples 
>> below) when we "change our minds" or "see things differently" then in fact 
>> there is a "plastic" change which persists past the direct effect of the 
>> drugs or the therapy session.  
>>
>> I think you are asking *what* the specific brain changes are that might be 
>> effected through A) Therapy and B) Antidepressants/???  and C) a) 
>> supported/enhanced/accelerated by b). 
>

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