Elitism at its finest. I applaud whoever finally had the guts to speak the (their) truth. Did anyone on the LANL side have the guts to admit that that community member was right? I doubt it.
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 3:57 PM Merle Lefkoff <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Marcus, > > My client many years ago was Los Alamos County. They hired my consulting > firm to design and facilitate a county-wide meeting to discuss the > relationship between LANL and the citizens who lived there. When I > interviewed local people prior to designing the meeting, I found a lot of > anger about the role of the lab in relation to its surrounding neighbors. > It was quite emotional, and so I brought in a colleague who is a > psychiatrist to help me facilitate. Toward the end of a difficult weekend > of discussion, he asked: "We've had deep dialogue together, but I feel > that there is still an "unspoken" here. What is it?" A member of the > group raised her hand and said the "unspoken here is that the laboratory > considers the county, the town, and its citizens just "decoration. We have > practically no relationship, and they feel we do not contribute any added > value." > > So sad, and so totally expected. > > > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 10:30 AM Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Glen writes: >> >> < I remember moving to Santa Fe and hating Cerrillos Rd with all it's >> little businesses, the trashy look, sections of ill- and un-used >> properties, peppered with upscale stuff in some spots. > >> >> Before brainstorming about how to integrate LANL, etc. into the St. >> Michael / Cerrillos area, it might be worth asking why the town of Los >> Alamos is so abysmal. Los Alamos county has one of the highest per capita >> incomes in the country, and yet there is not a thing to spend money on up >> there besides real estate. One reason I've heard is that the folks that >> own the lots in the town find it more profitable to hold on to them and >> rent to the lab when the need arises. Thus there is no way to build >> anything. Another is that it is a family town, and oddly enough not a >> town that facilitates workism -- people more-or-less work 9 to 5 and then >> hang out at home, and want to. Or on the weekends they ski or hike. Its >> always been astonishing to me that there aren't more restaurants. The >> only conventional sign of progress is the big Smiths facility. >> >> Marcus >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Friam <[email protected]> on behalf of uǝlƃ ☣ < >> [email protected]> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2020 8:14 AM >> *To:* FriAM <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF >> City Hall; bring friends >> >> Just a preamble: I remember moving to Santa Fe and hating Cerrillos Rd >> with all it's little businesses, the trashy look, sections of ill- and >> un-used properties, peppered with upscale stuff in some spots. I'd moved >> there from Dallas, TX, where they'd rather tear down an old building than >> repurpose it. I recognized the "planned" look of Dallas because I grew up >> in Houston, where zoning laws are relatively loose. >> >> But Cerrillos is what taught me the meaning of "organic". So, as an (also >> vague) attempt to answer the question, the only way one can "design" an >> ecosystem is by first studying the already extant ecosystem and nudging it >> in multifarious ways. The primary problem with organically grown systems is >> the lack of executive function ... a high-order feedback (like a cerebral >> cortex) ... to establish and maintain constraints like water limits, >> geographical sprawl, pollution, etc. So, the FIRST part of the plan would >> be to constructively aggregate the extant businesses into some sort of >> scaffolded hierarchy starting with tiny businesses (businesses run by >> people with ZERO spare time, of course), up through boutique businesses >> (coffee shops, breweries, fashion, etc.), up through larger scale >> businesses, etc. ... all the way up to behemoths like LANL or the State of >> NM. >> >> The second part of the plan would be to adopt some trial (non-local) >> constraints like water limitations and experiment with feeding that back >> down the hierarchy (layer by layer *or* cross-trophically, jumping over >> layers) and then following the effects back up the hierarchy. As trials, >> there must be challenge tests, ways to decide whether to abandon or >> iteratively modify the constraints and their up- and down-ward signaling. >> So, this second part of the plan might *start* by formalizing those tests >> (in an "agile" style). >> >> Any interference/manipulation by a behemoth like Amazon or CMU would >> require them to *facilitate* the hierarchy, as opposed to *disrupting* it. >> (As I think someone in this thread has already mentioned, but I don't have >> the bandwidth to farm the posts for who said/implied it.) Following >> co-evolution and multi-objective optimization, the constraints have to be >> at least partially *endogenous*. The executive has to be pretty tightly >> coupled to the rest of the system. Any attempts at decoupled, directed >> evolution of the ecosystem will be fragile to disrupting enterprises. But >> if the disruptions are small/local, then the network of feedbacks can >> adjust, limiting any species collapse in response to that disruption. >> >> That's how I would "define the function" of the behemoth. >> >> On 1/14/20 1:03 PM, David Eric Smith wrote: >> > I know the members on this list mostly don’t have powers of >> implementation, but as idle intellectual exercise, if you/we were portfolio >> managers, or really avant-garde regional planners, what would your design >> look like to get through critical mass thresholds to tip an interior, >> water-limited, relatively low-population region into some kind of >> self-maintaining decent standard of life and opportunity for whoever lived >> there stably for a long time. (And how many can that be, in water-limited >> regions?) Intel made a significant impact in ABQ, but putting a >> semiconductor fab in a desert is about as unsustainable a business decision >> as I can imagine. What resources exist currently? If you were designing >> the institutional ecosystem, and knew you needed some economic social >> function but couldn’t find an actor to fit it, could you define in somewhat >> operational terms what that function would need to be, and how much of the >> remainder of the context could you populate with specific actors and a plan >> to get them into place? >> > >> > I know this is much too loose and long-term to deal with immediate >> practicalities of interacting wtih the SF city council, but we often speak >> as if long-term future visioning efforts could in principle yield something >> useful. >> >> -- >> ☣ uǝlƃ >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >> > > > -- > Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D. > President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy > emergentdiplomacy.org > Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA > [email protected] <[email protected]> > mobile: (303) 859-5609 > skype: merle.lelfkoff2 > twitter: @Merle_Lefkoff > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >
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