I would not count on just one dangerous serotype of SARS-CoV-2. The L type that is currently more dangerous is not the ancestral form, which suggests it is adapting to humans. It is a big virus (~28k kilobases) meaning it has more degrees of freedom to adapt. The recent study from China (Tang, et. al) only looked at a 103 sequences. It could evolve in many different directions (and it may have already done so) if hundreds of thousands of hosts and social interventions are forcing it to; more serotypes could emerge and your immunity could be short lived.
On 3/11/20, 10:36 AM, "Friam on behalf of [email protected]" <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote: Marcus, Actually, what my REASON tells me, is that the best thing for me individually, as an octogenarian, would be to find somebody with the virus and hug them. The hope would be that I would get the best possible medical care BEFORE the crisis hits generally and then whatever is going to happen to me would have already have happened by the time the virus becomes epidemic in Santa Fe. To make such a strategy ethical, I would need to go immediately from the hug to a hospital room fool of people in hazmat suits. I am not sure that such exists, yet, here in Santa Fe N Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University [email protected] https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -----Original Message----- From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 11:01 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Pragmaticism and puritanism Temporary refrigeration for some FRIAM members? Just until it all blows over? On 3/11/20, 9:30 AM, "Friam on behalf of [email protected]" <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote: Hi Dave, Well, at the very least, the kind of information that would convince me to take a somewhat dodgy drug to fend off covid19. N Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University [email protected] https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -----Original Message----- From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Prof David West Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 9:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Pragmaticism and puritanism May I add — what would convince you that psychedelic experiences are worth of the same kind of investigation as "ordinary" experiences. davew On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, at 3:18 PM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: > Well, I definitely privilege scientific ways of knowing more than any > other way of knowing [†]. So I don't disagree with what you *say*. But > it seems to me that *you* don't privilege scientific knowledge in > these discussions. You talk a LOT about philosophy and metaphysics, > but not much about scientific results. The recent 'round and 'round > about "sledgehammers", Peirce's metaphysics, or whatnot, largely > ignoring any attempts to discuss psychedelic research and medicine, > seems to imply that you do not privilege science. > > So, maybe if I pull out the old saw again? If results published in > peer-reviewed literature and clinical trial data will NOT convince you > that psychedelics can be used as medicine, then what WOULD convince > you? If nothing will ever convince you, then you certainly do NOT > privilege science. > > > [†] It ain't perfect; and it ain't the only kind of knowledge. 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