I'm thinking the symptoms of COVID19 might be closer to those of a "dodgy drug" in this case... some fever dreams for all who are symptomatic?
On 3/11/20 11:01 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Temporary refrigeration for some FRIAM members? Just until it all blows > over? > > On 3/11/20, 9:30 AM, "Friam on behalf of [email protected]" > <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > Well, at the very least, the kind of information that would convince me > to take a somewhat dodgy drug to fend off covid19. > > N > > Nicholas Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > Clark University > [email protected] > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Prof David West > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 9:05 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Pragmaticism and puritanism > > May I add — what would convince you that psychedelic experiences are > worth of the same kind of investigation as "ordinary" experiences. > > davew > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, at 3:18 PM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: > > Well, I definitely privilege scientific ways of knowing more than any > > other way of knowing [†]. So I don't disagree with what you *say*. But > > it seems to me that *you* don't privilege scientific knowledge in > > these discussions. You talk a LOT about philosophy and metaphysics, > > but not much about scientific results. The recent 'round and 'round > > about "sledgehammers", Peirce's metaphysics, or whatnot, largely > > ignoring any attempts to discuss psychedelic research and medicine, > > seems to imply that you do not privilege science. > > > > So, maybe if I pull out the old saw again? If results published in > > peer-reviewed literature and clinical trial data will NOT convince you > > that psychedelics can be used as medicine, then what WOULD convince > > you? If nothing will ever convince you, then you certainly do NOT > > privilege science. > > > > > > [†] It ain't perfect; and it ain't the only kind of knowledge. But > > it's the best we have. > > > > On 3/10/20 11:03 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > No, I am not sure that Dave and Glen would disagree with any of this. > > > > -- > > ☣ uǝlƃ > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe > > at St. John's College to unsubscribe > > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
