There was an article on this, I think NYT, I think sometime last week. So some group is currently doing that on some data set. I too would like to see it done more comprehensively and systematically by some group.
Probably I saw the article because somebody posted it to this list. Slap me when I wake back up. Eric > On May 7, 2020, at 12:01 PM, Joe Spinden <[email protected]> wrote: > > This endless parsing of the data strikes me as too difficult to accurately > assess. > > A simpler approach might be to compare overall death rates from a comparable > period, tentatively attributing at least a large part of the numerical > differences to the main changed variable: COVID-19. > > > > > > On 5/6/20 8:44 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > >> I think that is a little pessimistic. If you look at, say, the UK Biobank, >> they have interviews with each subject characterizing things like work >> history, cognitive function, mental health, noise pollution and so on. >> But they also have details on mortality and genomic sequences. >> >> From: Friam <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> >> on behalf of Prof David West <[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> >> Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 7:40 PM >> To: "[email protected]" <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] What Is the Real Coronavirus Toll in Each State? - The >> New York Times >> >> When we have comprehensive data — say a year from now — there will be >> hundreds of unexplained anomalies. All of the models and all of the formulas >> will be made more and more complex to try to account for those anomalies, >> the epidemiological and statistical equivalent of astronomical epicycles. >> >> And no one will look at variations in individual and group (10-100 >> individuals) behavior and how they differ as a "function" of culture. And >> they will thereby miss the "explanation" for those anomalies. >> >> No grocery store in the Utah counties of Kane and Garfield, had had empty >> toilet paper, flour, or sanitizer shelves. Not fully stocked, absent the >> usual variety, but never empty. A statistical / economic / "scientific" >> study of these two counties and any other two counties in the US with >> similar populations and population density/distributions will never reveal >> the "reason" for this phenomenon. A cultural investigation will expose the >> "reason" almost immediately. >> >> I predict similar anomalies with regard spread of the disease and most >> importantly variations in death rates among those infected. And, the >> "reason" will again be cultural/behavioral. >> >> davew >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 6, 2020, at 3:49 PM, [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >> Doesn’t doubling time handle that problem? >> >> N >> >> Nicholas Thompson >> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology >> Clark University >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ >> <https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/> >> >> >> >> From: Friam <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> >> On Behalf Of Steven A Smith >> Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 2:00 PM >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] What Is the Real Coronavirus Toll in Each State? - The >> New York Times >> >> >> >> On 5/6/20 1:54 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: >> My brother lives in Dahlonega, Lumpkin County, Georgia. The map Georgia >> map surprises me Atlanta is not a hotspot. Atlanta dominates the population >> of the State. Southwest Georgia has a much higher concentration. Georgia, >> unlike Pennsylvania, has a large population of rural African Americans. >> This just underscores how hard it is to make sense out of absolute numbers, >> or more to the point, numerators without denominators. At least some of >> the charts of absolute numbers (as long as they are not renormalized from >> situation to situation) provide a visual estimation of "slope". >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 1:43 PM Roger Critchlow <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Hall County is a county located in the north central portion of the U.S. >> state of Georgia. As of the 2010 census, the population was 179,684. The >> county seat is Gainesville. >> >> >> https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/ >> >> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/> >> provides maps of deaths and cases per county, raw numbers and per 100000 >> population. >> >> -- rec -- >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 3:18 PM uǝlƃ ☣ <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Hall: 20,441 >> DeKalb: 759,297 >> >> On 5/6/20 12:08 PM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Glen, those Hall/King comparisons are pretty dramatic. Go Kemp! 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