1,646,495 as of this morning, according to https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 8:25 AM Jochen Fromm <[email protected]> wrote: > If the virus helps to convince Trump supporters to see how evil individual > no. 1 is, there might be something good about it. Every death is still one > too many. It is hard to understand how a president can go golfing while > nearly 100,000 people in his country have died in a pandemic. > > -J. > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Russ Abbott <[email protected]> > Date: 5/25/20 09:04 (GMT+01:00) > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The Second Wave is Gathering > > Dale and Marcus put it all very sanely. I was talking specifically about > my emotional reaction. > > It's not that I take delight in anyone's suffering or that I want us to > spend our resources protecting reasonable people (which, of course, I do). > I don't even want an invective to hurl. > > It's that I *find myself hoping* that the generic Trump fanboy comes down > with COVID --- especially after being aggressively reckless as a political > act. It's similar to what Nick said (told you so; serves you right) but, > now that I think about it, a bit more on the abstract level. I don't want > real people to suffer, but in the service of moving the political needle, > I'd be happy to see the generic Trump supporter having problems. > > I would feel terrible if somehow as a result of my wishes, lots of > red-state people ended up on ventilators. I want the red states themselves > on ventilators, not the flesh-and-blood individuals in those states. > > > > > On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 9:42 PM Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Nick, for me, that’s not it either. >> >> >> >> I hope that reasonable people won’t waste time protecting unreasonable >> people from themselves, and will focus on protecting other reasonable >> people, and the innocent. Specifically, to your interpretation, I will >> not value their regret and do not seek it. >> >> >> >> The stakes are high, with COVID-19, climate change, and many other things. >> >> >> >> Marcus >> >> >> >> *From: *Friam <[email protected]> on behalf of " >> [email protected]" <[email protected]> >> *Reply-To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >> [email protected]> >> *Date: *Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 9:05 PM >> *To: *'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' < >> [email protected]> >> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] The Second Wave is Gathering >> >> >> >> Dale, >> >> >> >> What’s the German word for, I told you so, suckah! I agree that it’s not >> quite schadenfreude, but it’s pretty darned close. >> >> >> >> Oh, it appears to be “Ich habe es dir gesagt, Trottel” >> >> >> >> That comes off the tongue pretty good, too. If invective is what one is >> after, it’s hard to beat german. >> >> >> >> NIck >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Nicholas Thompson >> >> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology >> >> Clark University >> >> [email protected] >> >> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Friam <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Dale Schumacher >> *Sent:* Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:30 PM >> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >> [email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] The Second Wave is Gathering >> >> >> >> It seems to me that this is a misapplication of the term *schadenfreude*. >> Assume Russ feels that same way I do, I would clarify that I do not "take >> delight in the suffering of another". Rather that I hope that a population >> that is making horrible choices will directly experience the consequences >> of those choices, and thus perhaps reconsider them. Unfortunately, there >> will also be a lot of collateral damage, but "natural selection" has always >> been a blunt instrument... >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 6:12 PM <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> This emotion, culpable though it may be, is so common there is a german >> word for it, *schadenfreude*. >> >> >> >> Doesn’t that just roll off the tongue? >> >> >> >> n >> >> >> >> Nicholas Thompson >> >> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology >> >> Clark University >> >> [email protected] >> >> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Friam <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Russ Abbott >> *Sent:* Saturday, May 23, 2020 5:21 PM >> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >> [email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] The Second Wave is Gathering >> >> >> >> I feel ethically corrupt to find myself hoping for a spike in COVID >> incidents among Trump voters. But in fact, that's what I'm hoping for. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 4:11 PM David Eric Smith <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> One should do a regression against the popular vote and against the >> electoral vote. 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