Sorry. I quoted cases confirmed (which would be higher with more testing, of course).
The death toll is 97,794. On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 9:23 AM Dale Schumacher <[email protected]> wrote: > 1,646,495 as of this morning, according to > https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html > > > On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 8:25 AM Jochen Fromm <[email protected]> wrote: > >> If the virus helps to convince Trump supporters to see how evil >> individual no. 1 is, there might be something good about it. Every death is >> still one too many. It is hard to understand how a president can go golfing >> while nearly 100,000 people in his country have died in a pandemic. >> >> -J. >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Russ Abbott <[email protected]> >> Date: 5/25/20 09:04 (GMT+01:00) >> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> >> >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The Second Wave is Gathering >> >> Dale and Marcus put it all very sanely. I was talking specifically about >> my emotional reaction. >> >> It's not that I take delight in anyone's suffering or that I want us to >> spend our resources protecting reasonable people (which, of course, I do). >> I don't even want an invective to hurl. >> >> It's that I *find myself hoping* that the generic Trump fanboy comes >> down with COVID --- especially after being aggressively reckless as a >> political act. It's similar to what Nick said (told you so; serves you >> right) but, now that I think about it, a bit more on the abstract level. I >> don't want real people to suffer, but in the service of moving the >> political needle, I'd be happy to see the generic Trump supporter having >> problems. >> >> I would feel terrible if somehow as a result of my wishes, lots of >> red-state people ended up on ventilators. I want the red states themselves >> on ventilators, not the flesh-and-blood individuals in those states. >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 9:42 PM Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Nick, for me, that’s not it either. >>> >>> >>> >>> I hope that reasonable people won’t waste time protecting unreasonable >>> people from themselves, and will focus on protecting other reasonable >>> people, and the innocent. Specifically, to your interpretation, I will >>> not value their regret and do not seek it. >>> >>> >>> >>> The stakes are high, with COVID-19, climate change, and many other >>> things. >>> >>> >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *Friam <[email protected]> on behalf of " >>> [email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> *Reply-To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >>> [email protected]> >>> *Date: *Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 9:05 PM >>> *To: *'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' < >>> [email protected]> >>> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] The Second Wave is Gathering >>> >>> >>> >>> Dale, >>> >>> >>> >>> What’s the German word for, I told you so, suckah! I agree that it’s >>> not quite schadenfreude, but it’s pretty darned close. >>> >>> >>> >>> Oh, it appears to be “Ich habe es dir gesagt, Trottel” >>> >>> >>> >>> That comes off the tongue pretty good, too. If invective is what one is >>> after, it’s hard to beat german. >>> >>> >>> >>> NIck >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Nicholas Thompson >>> >>> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology >>> >>> Clark University >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Friam <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Dale Schumacher >>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:30 PM >>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >>> [email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] The Second Wave is Gathering >>> >>> >>> >>> It seems to me that this is a misapplication of the term *schadenfreude*. >>> Assume Russ feels that same way I do, I would clarify that I do not "take >>> delight in the suffering of another". Rather that I hope that a population >>> that is making horrible choices will directly experience the consequences >>> of those choices, and thus perhaps reconsider them. Unfortunately, there >>> will also be a lot of collateral damage, but "natural selection" has always >>> been a blunt instrument... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 6:12 PM <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> This emotion, culpable though it may be, is so common there is a german >>> word for it, *schadenfreude*. >>> >>> >>> >>> Doesn’t that just roll off the tongue? >>> >>> >>> >>> n >>> >>> >>> >>> Nicholas Thompson >>> >>> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology >>> >>> Clark University >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Friam <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Russ Abbott >>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 23, 2020 5:21 PM >>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >>> [email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] The Second Wave is Gathering >>> >>> >>> >>> I feel ethically corrupt to find myself hoping for a spike in COVID >>> incidents among Trump voters. But in fact, that's what I'm hoping for. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 4:11 PM David Eric Smith <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> One should do a regression against the popular vote and against the >>> electoral vote. 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