Jochen,

What is kind of funny is that two episodes later,
rather than forcefully pushing his DISC-obsessed
program forward, he invites Roger Penrose
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg93Dm-vYc8> on to
the show to have a really satisfying and very
straightforward discussion of mathematics and
physics. They talk Gauge theory, Riemannian
geometry, light cones, the mass of particles,
spinors, twistors, Aharonov-Bohm, Maxwell,
Lie groups, and what makes 15 dimensional
spaces unique.

Jon
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