Sure, I would like to see it, maybe the others too? I have a feeling that there 
is something evil about the Weinstein brothers, though. I watched the 
discussion between Richard Dawkins and Bret Weinstein for instance, and Richard 
Dawkins was awesome, he focused on ideas and explained them clearly while Bret 
only talked about himself and his ideas, and made flattering comments such as 
Narcissists do, especially in the last 20 minutes. People with NPD do exactly 
that, they are masters of self-promotion and flattery who mainly talk about 
themselves https://youtu.be/hYzU-DoEV6kDawkins said in this interview that 
genes and memes would tussle each other in a great soup of replicators. There 
would be various kinds of replicators, genes and memes, and they are all 
engaged in a kind of tussle with each other to survive as replicators. A whole 
genome would be a massive collection of "cooperative" viruses who share the 
same vehicle to go around as a gang and replicate themselves. This means that a 
genome is a bundle of cooperative viruses, and a virus is like a selfish gene 
that goes awry. A virus is like a gene with a narcissistic personality disorder 
so to speak. Could a virus be seen as a selfish gene gone rogue? I like this 
idea.-J.
-------- Original message --------From: [email protected] Date: 6/2/20  
17:57  (GMT+01:00) To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' 
<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Science Commits SuicideJochen,My 
evidence about the brothers Weinstein comes solely from that one, 
brother-to-brother, podcast which I watched with utter (watching a trainwreck) 
fascination.  I have never met an academic who doesn’t think that, in some 
sense, s/he deserves a Nobel prize.  Some of us are consumed by it, and, I am 
guessing, it’s those folks get the Nobel prizes.  The rest of us live out happy 
lives of muted disappointment.  As I read that podcast, Bret was not consumed 
by it; Eric, on the other hand, was consumed by Bret’s lack of consumption.  
Sounds like a soap opera, doesn’t it?  Cult of the Individual.   I was so moved 
by it, I have been drafting a letter to them, which is only a synopsis of all 
that it stirred up in me.  Perhaps you would like to see it.  God know it would 
never break through to them.  In any case, I recommend you throw out your 
Vioxx. Nick  Nicholas ThompsonEmeritus Professor of Ethology and 
PsychologyClark 
[email protected]https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/   
From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jochen FrommSent: Tuesday, 
June 2, 2020 12:19 AMTo: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
<[email protected]>Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Science Commits Suicide I have heard of 
Penrose and his idea of Quantum Consciousness. Some of the Weinstein podcasts 
are interesting. But Eric works for Peter Thiel, who has not the best image. 
And Bret seems to be eaten up by his bitterness and revenge fantasies, because 
Carol Greider has stolen his idea and got the Nobel Prize and he has nothing. 
From my own experience in the academic world I can confirm that there is a true 
core behind the myth (or conspiracy theory) of the DISC. -J.  -------- Original 
message --------From: Jon Zingale <[email protected]> Date: 6/2/20 00:33 
(GMT+01:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Science Commits Suicide  
Jochen, What is kind of funny is that two episodes later,rather than forcefully 
pushing his DISC-obsessedprogram forward, he invites Roger Penrose on tothe 
show to have a really satisfying and verystraightforward discussion of 
mathematics andphysics. They talk Gauge theory, Riemanniangeometry, light 
cones, the mass of particles,spinors, twistors, Aharonov-Bohm, Maxwell,Lie 
groups, and what makes 15 dimensionalspaces unique. Jon
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