The full text of the Kerner Report:

https://archive.org/stream/kernerreportrevi00asse/kernerreportrevi00asse_djvu.txt


On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 9:10 PM Frank Wimberly <[email protected]> wrote:

> My wife's father was a member of that Commission.  He was an attorney and
> a lifelong Chicagoan.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 8:45 PM Merle Lefkoff <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I think I wrote to the list earlier that I dredged up the Kerner Report
>> last week--1968, and I suggest you all read it.
>> http://www.eisenhowerfoundation.org/docs/kerner.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 3:58 PM Steve Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Glen -
>>>
>>> I know you weren't pulling our leg (or my finger).
>>>
>>> This was the post I was composing when the tone deaf joke formed and
>>> escaped:
>>>
>>> My "intellectual" interest is in how self-organizing principles and
>>> emergence operate in social contexts...  on both sides of the debate here,
>>> as is being alluded to here already.   When Law Enforcement gets
>>> significantly defunded, what fills the vacuum left by that?   There are
>>> lots of *other* vacuums/rifts/holes being formed as our culture heaves and
>>> buckles a little under a series of shifts.   I'm not sure what (if any) are
>>> root causes and what are just cascades and reactions.   Globalism,
>>> NeoLiberalism, Authoritarinism, Fascism, Manic Hypercaptialism, Rapid
>>> Technological Change,  Hyper Connectedness,  Information Overload, etc.
>>>
>>> Many believe that shifting funding from law enforcement (which is by
>>> definition more reactionary than preventative?) to mental and social
>>> services which are intended to be more strongly pro-active in preventing
>>> the kinds of problems that the police often have to remediate down the
>>> road, is a net gain and possibly something that could be effected very
>>> quickly, even if positive results may lag in many cases.  I don't know how
>>> well that works for/with hardened criminals who've already been taken from
>>> being under-nourished, under-respected, under-opportunitied youth  through
>>> a series of trainings as a gang member first on the streets, and then
>>> inside prison for several stints, annealed and tempered by police, judges,
>>> prison-guards and one's fellow travelers to a strong core with a
>>> wicked-sharp edge.   But maybe if her mother and younger siblings aren't
>>> struggling to keep groceries in the fridge and the fridge running then
>>> maybe she can mature into something a little kinder-gentler.  Or maybe she
>>> already has, but it is hard to recognize when the only interface she has is
>>> a regular stop-and-frisking?  I think we do see a record of mellowing among
>>> aging hard-cores who survive long enough to become elders in their
>>> communities?
>>>
>>> I think Jon?s suggestion that private security will fill the vacuum is
>>> also valid.  More people will gate their communities and more gated
>>> communities will add uniformed patrols and more uniformed patrols will add
>>> lethal weapons and training.   The next George Floyd might be your massage
>>> therapist who made the mistake of making house-calls to your gated
>>> community while black/brown/yellow/red/poor and the next Chauvin & Co will
>>> be guys who couldn't even get IN to the police academy but COULD buy
>>> mirror-shades, a loaded up batman utility belt, matching chromed .45s with
>>> shoulder holsters, an Armalite 15 and a riot-style shotgun (but not rubber
>>> nor armor-piercing rounds, those are for law-enforcement-only) to carry in
>>> their ominously painted and hopped up SUV with  run flat tires, a
>>> push-bumper, blinky lights and a siren.   And that tricked out rig,
>>> security "professional" included, will cost a fraction of what a *real* law
>>> enforcement officer would BECAUSE of the lack of
>>> oversight/training/benefits, etc.    A new branch:  UBERArmed?
>>>
>>> The above is mildy (but not entirely) the maunderings of a
>>> frustrated/unexpressed cyberpunk novelist (me)... but oddly not that far
>>> away in "some Adjacent Possible"?
>>>
>>> Personally, I'm more interested in how to use this Svaha/Liminal moment
>>> to "Visualize World Peace"?   And what is in *that* adjacent possible
>>> (ensemble)?   There is value to a Red-Team/Blue-Team analysis in these
>>> situations, and I think *both* are necessary.  Awfulizing isn't the only
>>> thing to be doing right now.  Things are shifting, vacuums are created,
>>> playing-fields are being re-leveled... are there opportunities to "do the
>>> right thing", or is "the right thing" so subjective that we will simply
>>> "move the noise around"?   I identify as a humanist... I don't even know if
>>> that means what it used to (to others) or if I'm in anything like a "silent
>>> majority" in that identification.   Maybe the Anarchists and Libertarians
>>> and Radical Progressives and Radical Conservatives and ??? all think THEY
>>> are humanists.   Or maybe it's a bad word to them?   I certainly remember
>>> my self-righteous Catholic M-in-Law spitting the words "*Secular
>>> Humanist*" as if they were acid, leaving smoking, corroding spots
>>> everywhere they landed.
>>>
>>> - Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/10/20 11:17 AM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote:
>>>
>>> We have evidence of it, here:
>>>
>>> Olympia police unions respond to photo of officer posing with armed 
>>> menhttps://www.theolympian.com/news/local/article243401061.html
>>>
>>> FWIW, I think our mayor is wrong. The 3% sign isn't the OK sign, regardless 
>>> of whether any supremacists actually use the OK sign or not. But like any 
>>> tone deaf marketing message, if the symbol you adopt is *thought* to be a 
>>> racist symbol, then you should go ahead and change it. Just stop flying the 
>>> confederate flag even if it's been on your state flag for your whole life 
>>> ... just stop using the swastika even if you're (East) Indian or Native 
>>> American.
>>>
>>> But what does lend truth to the accusations leveled against the 3% is the 
>>> lack of a public statement condemning Trump for violating the constitution 
>>> in clearing St John's. If they exist to use their piddly little guns to 
>>> protect us from the government, where were they then? Perhaps they are only 
>>> interested in protecting a particular class of people? ... or only people 
>>> with whom they agree politically?
>>>
>>> As for the cop in the photo, she should at least be suspended for her 
>>> stupid mistake. Don't pose with with a bunch of dudes standing in a parking 
>>> lot with guns. That's simply a stupid thing for a cop (or any professional) 
>>> to do. And if you must do it, take off your uniform first.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/10/20 9:51 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>>>
>>> I think the point is that are already not accountable.   Protected by 
>>> unions and colleagues who will look the other way, and a culture that 
>>> accepts that certain people must consent to miserable lives.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/10/20, 9:48 AM, "Friam on behalf of Prof David West" 
>>> <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> 
>>> <[email protected][email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>     downside is the private militias that Jon mentioned. just like the 
>>> military that replaces soldiers with private contractors - to whom are the 
>>> latter accountable?
>>> On 6/9/20 4:28 PM, Jon Zingale wrote:
>>>
>>> 1. Will the efforts to defund the police eventually meet with efforts
>>> to build private militias? Will the future of policing in this country
>>> follow a path similar to the shift from public to private postal service?
>>> If so, what will accountability be?
>>>
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