How do dead lift and a graceful death relate to one another?   I could see 
arguments for and against.

On 6/11/20, 8:59 AM, "Friam on behalf of glen∈ℂ" <[email protected] on 
behalf of [email protected]> wrote:

    I can't speak for Nick, but it would be relatively easy to deny the 
existence of a UNIFIED consciousness without denying the existence of 
multifarious attentive consciousness. This is largely what I intended to do by 
focusing on those 2 papers that talk about the [dis]engagement of the motor 
complexes when *imaging* the generators of whatever behavior one's *observing*. 
This tendency to abstract is the problem. If we could stop doing that, be just 
a tiny bit skeptical of the existence of a unified consciousness, then we could 
make progress *toward* it (or falsifying it). But we can't because EVERYONE 
keeps assuming it. And they assume it so deeply it's frustrating and 
conversation becomes pointless.

    I turn 55 soon. I don't plan on stopping the deadlift. That sounds like a 
pretty good way to die, given my alternatives. I can only hope I die while 
*doing* something. I'm praying [†] for a massive heart attack. One of my cats 
died that way. It was quick and clean. No mess to clean up or nothing. Way 
better than another cat that was smashed into the asphalt by an over-sized Jeep 
tire. That was pretty messy. But at least it was quick and she probably didn't 
suffer much. I'd hate to force some poor Coroner, EMT, or Renee' to scrape me 
off the pavement like that.

    [†] Of course Crom doesn't answer prayers and the religion comes with no 
benefit.

    On 6/9/20 3:57 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
    > Associations to Glen's reply to Nick:  Comparing recent discussions here 
with Nick's description of the communicating mind seems apt to me.  Sometimes I 
lose track of who's writing and and surprised by the signature.  Nick, your 
description of the evolution of your theoretical positions is helpful to me.  I 
am sure that early.in <http://early.in> the history of our discussions you have 
at times denied the existence of consciousness and mind.  Do I misremember or 
have you reconsidered?
    > 
    > Speaking of deadlifting, my colleague Phil, at the Pittsburgh 
Supercomputing Center, was the European champion in his weight class.  He could 
deadlift something like 810 pounds.  He died suddenly while trying to lift more 
while preparing for a match.  It might be a good idea to stop at age 55 or so.


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