Despite my credentials as a naturalist, I am not fond of big bugs.  I don't 
know if you have ever seen the hornworm "butterfly" but they are about as large 
and noisy as black helicopters and near as mean looking.  

If your horn worm is carrying little white packages on its back, leave it be,  
Those are the eggs of parasites, which may explain why your datura plant came 
through. 

N 

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
[email protected]
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
 


-----Original Message-----
From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Smith
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 11:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Sunchoke rhizomes


> That reminded me of this fantastic scene from a fantastic tv show:
>
>   https://youtu.be/EbkKaiqXmPU

That is closer to what happened when I tried tasting the seeds of the 
"Moonflower" plants that grow sporadically here <grin>.

This year, my in-courtyard shady garden sprouted dozens which (my general 
policy on all native volunteer plants is "every sperm is
sacred") it turned out our chickens do like to nibble (not munch) on. When Mary 
saw this she removed them all, which I accepted, though best I could tell their 
ingestion was very limited and the leaves are much less "toxic" than the seeds. 
 

Last year, a particularly flourishing one on the side of the house showed up 
significantly denuded one day and upon inspection I discovered a small family 
of hornworms crawling their stems.   I was fascinated since I only know the 
worms as "tomato worms".   After the branches were entirely stripped, the worms 
disappeared... I never see them en-cocoon but understand/believe them to be the 
larval form of the sphynx-moth or hummingbird-moth which are happy pollinators 
to have around, even if they can be hell on my tomatoes.   Surprisingly the 
Datura's branches sprouted fresh leaves and finished out the growing season 
with dainty little leaves.   I saw another Datura with a hornworm a dozen yards 
away, but this time it failed to strip it.  I haven't seen the phenomena at all 
this year though...  

>
>
> On 8/6/20 10:26 AM, Steve Smith wrote:
>> I have tried chewing the
>> mature-but-fresh seeds and didn't find them at all interesting... 
>> just fibrous.


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