How do the names of these threads get changed? --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Nov 11, 2020, 8:45 AM Steve Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > Eric/Glen, et alia - > > I have my own near stress-narcolepsy around extreme conspiracy theories, > perhaps for the reason you call out here: to stretch to identify a > range of threats and then seem to put all of the energy into normalizing > them rather than picking the ones you might be able to address or > ameliorate or deflect or take some kind of action against. I'm quite > capable of morbid fascination over extreme cases, as long as I leave > them out beyond some pale of my own belief. I'm not against gaming out > worst-case scenarios on the off chance that I can cache the results for > a future time when in fact those scenarios start to loom close enough to > take seriously. > > While my lily-white-male privileged ass continues to want to deny that > the raving egomaniacs we have deferred (conferred) power to (via our > current aberrant instance of representative democracy) are near some > verge of throwing off the illusions that they are doing what they do "in > our name", it is no longer an abstract speculation for me and feels > *real* enough to me to bring my to the near side of this "uncanny valley". > > To be honest, I am more likely "hopping" back and forth between trying > to think through meaningful responses and trying to find indicators that > this is all show, that it is all the last throes of a melodramatic > villain flopping around on stage exhibiting his (their) spiraling > through the stages of grief. > > As a seeming tangent, I just watched a handful of documentary shorts on > Ernie Chambers from NE who was responsible for the splitting and keeping > their electoral votes split, but maybe more broadly importantly, > maintaining a powerful critical perspective on the conditions of African > Americans in the Industrial Midwest as a 6 term (1971-2009) State > Senator. Possibly of interest is that he did all of this openly as an > Atheist. His words and actions (especially early in his career) > carried a clear hopeful ideology about equality tempered by a hard-nosed > practicality. > > zzzZZZZZzzzzz, > > - Steve > > > On 11/11/20 6:47 AM, David Eric Smith wrote: > > Yes, much agreed Glen. > > > > I am getting to the point where something combining tedium and > stress-narcolepsy puts me to sleep, wading through more newspaper articles > saying in (performative?) outrage: McConnell has just said this > self-contradictory and hypocritical thing! How could he! How can his > supporters not recognize this! etc. > > > > Yes. And Duterte and MBS have just had some more people killed, and > Putin has poisoned somebody else. They will cease to do this when they are > stopped, and not before. Their followers and collaborators too. So what’s > the plan? > > > > Will be interesting if trump is firing people at DOD, in the Pentagon, > etc., because he wants, together with Pompeo and Barr, to try some military > move against either the US public, or some other country to create some > leverage situation against the US public. My mind doesn’t work in a way > that recognizes what might be appealing to them to try in that arena. > > > > Best, so to speak, > > > > Eric > > > > > >> On Nov 10, 2020, at 11:07 AM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Yep. The other thread talking about uniting us in the face of > polarization seem to miss this point. One pundit expressed it well "You > don't seek unity with your abuser." As Barr and a host of Republicans, > including McConnell < > https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/09/us/politics/republicans-trump-concede-2020-election.html>, > continue to hypocritically undermine the electoral process, any attempt to > "unite" with them is akin to co-dependency with a narcissist spouse. > >> > >> *After* the dust settles, Biden has no choice but to wrangle and > hog-tie the bad faith actors into productive behavior. But until then, > everyone who continues making unsubstantiated claims of fraud should be > seen as what they are. Skepticism is a good mistress, but a bad master. > >> > >> On 11/9/20 5:09 PM, David Eric Smith wrote: > >>> Those with access to Georgia TV stations can watch David Perdue and > Kelly Loeffler make a pack and attack Raffensperger, or whatever his name > is — the election commissioner — because he ran an actually remarkably > competent and clean election, rather than stealing it for them. Pretty > transparent. > >>> > >>> I was impressed and thought he deserved a lot of credit. Of course > Stacey Abrams is a hero, but that’s another story. > >> > >> -- > >> ↙↙↙ uǝlƃ > >> > >> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > >> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > >> un/subscribe > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fredfish.com%2fmailman%2flistinfo%2ffriam_redfish.com&c=E,1,jCMv8TI1nvwqvG6NcaHdzp45-et2FmSbwjzr7-fYLsfmBxn1ohaYvumAND2kvYjMMumekqcoYtCBIOX3mosLfiNGq272olYuNz6m1cBEwg,,&typo=1 > >> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > >> FRIAM-COMIC > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2ffriam-comic.blogspot.com%2f&c=E,1,zqUV7QE_yZaMUiSEh3ohIOyAy7c8-8_cs1bexnfZ48xA35q6LEBcL03tW3enRMonopgn4l1wBHG1B4_QpVwVfLjl2rCKLB7w3Qobk2Mab9S2D5Q4XHjp&typo=1 > > > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > > > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC> > http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >
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