Who would cook and wash the dishes?  JOKE.

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On Wed, Jan 13, 2021, 9:09 PM Eric Charles <[email protected]>
wrote:

> At least from the brief summary, the book seems to assume a very
> heterosexual world.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heteronormativity
>
> I've been to a few gay clubs, and a few drag shows, and let me assure you
> that it is quite possible to have non-dreary spaces where there are not
> women.
>
> "Oh my god, what would men do if women suddenly disappeared?!?" ....  I
> mean, yeah, that's a mystery <eye roll>.... <buys stock in sex-doll
> companies, gay entertainment conglomerates, and lube manufacturers>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 7:19 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> “Heteronormative?”
>>
>> n
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>>
>> Nicholas Thompson
>>
>> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
>>
>> Clark University
>>
>> [email protected]
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>> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
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>> *From:* Friam <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Eric Charles
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 13, 2021 5:29 PM
>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
>> [email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Talent and Moral Luck - Steelman attempt
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>> Odd... my initial reaction to the synopsis was that it sounded very
>> heteronormative :- D
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>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 5:36 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Uck!  A world without women; would it be SEXIST to say, I think that
>> would be a truly dreary place?  How could it NOT be sexist to say that?
>> Hmmmm!
>>
>>
>>
>> Nicholas Thompson
>>
>> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
>>
>> Clark University
>>
>> [email protected]
>>
>> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
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>> *From:* Friam <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Smith
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 13, 2021 1:07 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Talent and Moral Luck - Steelman attempt
>>
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>> One could drive the cash to a recipient, or send Bitcoin.   There's no 
>> requirement of anyone to afford a donor of any particular convenience.
>>
>> I submit this apocalyptic tale from Frank Herbert (Dune):
>>
>> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/93448.The_White_Plague
>>
>> Relevant Synopsis:   Scientist (microbiologist/virologist) has his wife
>> and daughter(s?) killed in a terrorist (IRA) attack on civilians.   He
>> withdraws from his work, consolidates his assets and builds a biolab in the
>> basement of a farmhouse in Iowa (or similar).  He gene splices a virus that
>> has A) good longevity outside of human body; B) spreads easily and well;
>> C) kills only women.    He consolidates his remaining assets into small
>> bills; laces them with the virus;  sends modest donations to every front
>> for terrorist organizations he can discover.   He built in a time-out that
>> *should* stop the virus after the appropriate number of generations to kill
>> all of the terrorist/ally women.   This is where all goes awry... a
>> mutation? breaks the timeout and the virus spreads around the world leaving
>> all but a few handfuls of women who happened to be in some kind of
>> isolation (e.g. in space, yachting around the world, etc.) ...  this is the
>> first two chapters or so, the rest (bulk) of the book is post-apocalyptic
>> yadda yadda but with the overtone of all the surviving men in the world
>> having to come to terms with how much they took their women for granted,
>> etc.
>>
>> Sadly, I fear this scenario is not nearly as far fetched as it was when
>> he wrote it (80s?)...
>>
>> Cross breed this story with Neal Stephenson's "Snow Crash" and you get
>> virus that collapses the world economic system...
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> From: Friam <[email protected]> <[email protected]> On 
>> Behalf Of jon zingale
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>> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2021 9:26 AM
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>> To: [email protected]
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>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Talent and Moral Luck - Steelman attempt
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>> Very well summarized. I am hearing that Nick's question is one of cultural 
>> cultivation. Finding and maintaining a sweet spot seems crucial. Is it the 
>> responsibility and obligation of those with power to sit at the head of the 
>> household, to play the role of daddy to all free persons? I watched a DW 
>> broadcast where it was reported that financial services like Stripe no 
>> longer allow users to donate money to Donald Trump, and Deutsche Bank has 
>> cut business ties with him. The report closed with a broadcaster saying, 
>> "Well, it looks like money talks". I couldn't help but think that it was 
>> exactly the opposite, a place where money will not. I was left thinking that 
>> I could donate money to a felon sitting in prison, but not the exiting 
>> president of the United States (not that I have such an ambition). Here 
>> pressures on Trump's context are being reformed to reflect a new status for 
>> the man. Is this an example of a change in *our attitudes*?
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