Renee' and I were talking about that the other day, actually. An assembly line 
of chickens, their throats being slit as they slide by hanging from their feet, 
seems like abuse. Grandma wringing the neck of a relatively happy chicken per 
holiday or per week so that the family can have some protein does not. But that 
intuitive difference in scale doesn't work, at all, with a civilization as 
dense and connected as ours. E.g. following along with the idea that single-use 
plastic bags are arguably better for the planet than, say, single use paper 
bags ... a utilitarian might suggest that *temporary* assembly line death 
machines for chickens, by fueling the minds of billions of humans, some of whom 
will be geniuses, gets us to another attractor where all humans and chickens 
can be treated as ends in themselves.

Billions of years with lots of comfy chickens and no death machines, outweighs 
several hundred years with death machines for chickens. Swap "chicken" and 
"human" and you might be canceled. >8^D But as difficult as the above rhetoric 
is to accept, it's more difficult to believe there would be enough genius 
chickens to lift us off this attractor.

On 3/12/21 2:59 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> The dehumanization that is learned or decided seems different from the 
> dehumanization that is trained.   I can't make much sense of farm life, in 
> retrospect.   What's the pecking order for use and abuse of animals?

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