I'm objecting to the idea that recursion could result in anything but the distributions that drove it. (Yes, even recognizing most of the inputs won't be measurable or precise.) The process is not free. It is a specific set of functions that could be written down by an oracle, and to say that some other function "should" have been there is just meaningless. The use of the term of "free will" can be noted as a sign of magical thinking, not recast into "Oh they really mean Some Sort of Reasonable Thing", when they clearly do not.
-----Original Message----- From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of u?l? ??? Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 11:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Free Will in the Atlantic Exactly. So what are you disagreeing with? What we call "free will" is a possibly deterministic self-perceptive feedback. On 4/2/21 11:05 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Not magic. We can still reason about what a recursive or even probabilistic > recursive function must do. We can reason about intertwined functions, or, > even functions with entangled states if meat bags had such things. I can > imagine implementing an executive process for a robot that would result in > something one might call agency. This all works fine within the bounds of > purely deterministic things. It is just another computer program. -- ↙↙↙ uǝlƃ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/
